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Atheists: Come out, come out, wherever you are
louisev:
dirtbiker - theocracy is NOT going to happen in America. IF it was ever likely to happen it would have been when those fundamentalist nutcases, the Pilgrims, my ancestors, landed at Plymouth, because they had the advantage of being the first ones to stake out territory. It is way too late - and separation of Church and State are enshrined in our Constitution, as much as the Sarah Palin's of the world are trying to repeal it.
Monika:
--- Quote from: dirtbiker on May 24, 2010, 12:23:13 pm ---Richard Dawkin's God Delusion!
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Richard Dawkin´s is great. I love his sense of logic.
Marina:
--- Quote ---<Then whence cometh evil?> That is obvious. Through our willful actions that are destructive to others.
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I would add our inaction to this as well.
I don't believe in organized religions devised by humankind - there's sometimes too much hypocrisy and they are sometimes too self-serving for me. The basic tenets of them are good - but they get twisted around until they only serve humankind's need for power, and are suceptible to human corruption. And - surprise! - they place humankind in some kind of self-proclaimed dominion of the Earth. Negative messages such as these, reinforced over the centuries by religions, are tough to change. I do believe in a higher power though, God, a Creator, something higher than ourselves. When I look around at the natural world, I just feel there must be something higher than ourselves, something with a deeper meaning. Atheism has always struck me as just one more example of mankind's arrogance and self-importance.
I was raised as a Protestant; and have always had a curiosity regarding spirituality. Over the years, my beliefs incorporate Buddhist, Hindu and Native American and Celtic, as well, and I don't discount some of the basic, loving tenets of most. When they get twisted into hateful beliefs is where I draw the line. I think my personal beliefs are as valid as any.
dirtbiker:
--- Quote from: louisev on May 24, 2010, 01:50:55 pm ---dirtbiker - theocracy is NOT going to happen in America. IF it was ever likely to happen it would have been when those fundamentalist nutcases, the Pilgrims, my ancestors, landed at Plymouth, because they had the advantage of being the first ones to stake out territory. It is way too late - and separation of Church and State are enshrined in our Constitution, as much as the Sarah Palin's of the world are trying to repeal it.
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Well never say never. Apathy could lead to unpleasant changes!
Shakesthecoffecan:
Yes, it could happen. Look at Iran.
I do actually care about this, I strongly support separation of church and state, what I don't care about is weather or not there is a here after. I do think that religion, including divinity in all its forms is a human creation, and as such, somewhat of a self fulfilling prophecy. Could Armageddon happen? Sure, if some one in the right place and the right time thought it was their duty to make it happen.
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