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Front-Ranger:
Very interesting...
Say, I just had an epiphany...or maybe you could call it an epiphAnnie!
Take the final "s" off of Ennis, and Enni sounds and looks much like...Annie!!
optom3:
One of the most famous literary Twists, is Oliver Twist in the Dickens novel. I wonder if there is a connection here.Dickens uses the novel to mock the hypocrisies of the time,particularly the poor law,which said, that all poor people must work in workhouses.
Why, it is hardly their fault that they are poor.
The S.S in effect challenges us to examine some of the hypocrisy of our time.It is O.K to go and kill in wars at a very young age and yet love between same sex is wrong.Why it is hardly their fault that they love as they do.
In fact most would probably wish to live as heterosexual,just as the poor would wish to live as rich.If for no other reason Than it is easier.
So war is O.K and love is not
Also Oliver in all films, is cast as a winsome child,with big pleading eyes and the childish belief that it will all work out.He is of course a child.That reminds me of some one else.Jack maybe an adult but he still holds that same chidish innocence that it will all work out.
Proulx is obviously a very well read author and I wonder if the name Twist may have been inspired by Dickens' Twist,
There really do seem to be some parallels,particularly the challenge of long held,unfair and outdated beliefs by the masses,which result in marginalisation of the few.Those who hold themselves up as the moral arbitrators,of the few.Back in Dickens time,the rich judged the poor.Today the right wing moral so called Christians judge homosexuality.
Of course one difference is that Oliver gets his happy ending,Jack does not.
Also the poor law was eradicated,
and yet still gay hatred and inequality continues.So looked at in those terms we as humans have regressed.
At least all those years ago the injustice was finally righted.We are still waiting for that to happen with this issue.In other words how far have we really come?
Both stories seem to be tales of moral judgenent of the few by the self righteous many, hardship etc so maybe that is where Twist comes from.
Gabreya:
--- Quote from: optom3 on May 01, 2008, 09:54:51 am ---One of the most famous literary Twists, is Oliver Twist in the Dickens novel. I wonder if there is a connection here.Dickens uses the novel to mock the hypocrisies of the time,particularly the poor law,which said, that all poor people must work in workhouses.
Why, it is hardly their fault that they are poor.
The S.S in effect challenges us to examine some of the hypocrisy of our time.It is O.K to go and kill in wars at a very young age and yet love between same sex is wrong.Why it is hardly their fault that they love as they do.
In fact most would probably wish to live as heterosexual,just as the poor would wish to live as rich.If for no other reason Than it is easier.
So war is O.K and love is not
Also Oliver in all films, is cast as a winsome child,with big pleading eyes and the childish belief that it will all work out.He is of course a child.That reminds me of some one else.Jack maybe an adult but he still holds that same chidish innocence that it will all work out.
Proulx is obviously a very well read author and I wonder if the name Twist may have been inspired by Dickens' Twist,
There really do seem to be some parallels,particularly the challenge of long held,unfair and outdated beliefs by the masses,which result in marginalisation of the few.Those who hold themselves up as the moral arbitrators,of the few.Back in Dickens time,the rich judged the poor.Today the right wing moral so called Christians judge homosexuality.
Of course one difference is that Oliver gets his happy ending,Jack does not.
Also the poor law was eradicated,
and yet still gay hatred and inequality continues.So looked at in those terms we as humans have regressed.
At least all those years ago the injustice was finally righted.We are still waiting for that to happen with this issue.In other words how far have we really come?
Both stories seem to be tales of moral judgenent of the few by the self righteous many, hardship etc so maybe that is where Twist comes from.
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Cool. :)
Front-Ranger:
There are several literary characters that Ennis and Jack remind me of. For instance, the narrator and Jeff in The Virginian. Also, the narrator and ?? (Kevin Kline LOL) in William Saroyan's Sophie's Choice. Jack Keroac and Dean Moriarty in On the Road. Also, Ishmael and Ahab in Moby Dick.
optom3:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 07, 2008, 04:56:41 pm ---There are several literary characters that Ennis and Jack remind me of. For instance, the narrator and Jeff in The Virginian. Also, the narrator and ?? (Kevin Kline LOL) in William Saroyan's Sophie's Choice. Jack Keroac and Dean Moriarty in On the Road. Also, Ishmael and Ahab in Moby Dick.
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Jack Keroac is such a good one,The book is a must read for most teens.Thanks for that reminder.
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