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Why are the poor, poor?
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2008, 11:04:19 pm ---Someone else around here is unwilling to face up to reality that theories put in practice may not necessarily have the consequences desired or anticipated. It's much easier to post platitudes about teaching children to use libraries than to face up to the reality that libraries get closed when there is no tax money to fund them.
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Thanks, Jeff, and I agree. I'd even go so far as to say there is probably, on both sides, some idealism about applying theories that don't necessarily work as planned, in reality.
What seems to be the difference between the two viewpoints is that one risks wasting some money -- yes, even trillions over 40 years, which must amount to, why, several hundred dollars over four decades for the average middle-class taxpayer! ::) -- attempting to execute their flawed theories in hopes of helping poor people in need.
Meanwhile, the other "side" is willing, if their theories don't work, to let fellow citizens -- people living in the richest nation on earth and in history, the one that's supposedly about equality and opportunity and all that stuff -- suffer and, without health insurance, even die.
Don't seem right, to me. :-\
Kerry:
Why are the poor, poor? In a word, "Karma."
I am genuinely not trying to trivialize this important issue by responding as I have. It is what I sincerely believe.
I believe that it is only the karmically UNevolved who are given wealth, because they are "young" souls, unaccustomed to the rigours of life and its lessons. We are given wealth in our early incarnations in order to soften the hardships of life. It is only after we progress karmically through many incarnations that we gain the privilege of attaining the lessons provided by lives of poverty. It is only then that we have the strength and experience from progressively experiencing more and ever more challenging incarnations that we are able to cope with poverty.
It is my belief that the entity who is closest to Nirvana and experiencing his/her final incarnation on Earth prior to progressing to a state of everlasting Bliss is more likely to be the beggar on the street, NOT the millionaire in his mansion.
We in the West see wealth as a blessing. Karmically speaking, it is just the opposite.
Peace. :)
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Kerry on May 09, 2008, 01:27:22 am ---It is my belief that the entity who is closest to Nirvana and experiencing his/her final incarnation on Earth prior to progressing to a state of everlasting Bliss is more likely to be the beggar on the street, NOT the millionaire in his mansion.
We in the West see wealth as a blessing. Karmically speaking, it is just the opposite.
Peace. :)
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"The West" has its version of this, too. Remember: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven"?
:)
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on May 09, 2008, 12:50:31 am ---Thanks, Jeff, and I agree. I'd even go so far as to say there is probably, on both sides, some idealism about applying theories that don't necessarily work as planned, in reality.
What seems to be the difference between the two viewpoints is that one risks wasting some money -- yes, even trillions over 40 years, which must amount to, why, several hundred dollars over four decades for the average middle-class taxpayer! ::) -- attempting to execute their flawed theories in hopes of helping poor people in need.
Meanwhile, the other "side" is willing, if their theories don't work, to let fellow citizens -- people living in the richest nation on earth and in history, the one that's supposedly about equality and opportunity and all that stuff -- suffer and, without health insurance, even die.
Don't seem right, to me. :-\
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Don't seem right to me, either.
Tell you what, sometimes I wish I had a shower-proof computer. In the shower last night I composed the most elegant explication of the Conservative viewpoint as seen from a Liberal perspective, and this morning I can't remember a word of it! :-\
Kerry:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 09, 2008, 08:52:06 am ---
"The West" has its version of this, too. Remember: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven"?
:)
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A very sobering quote, indeed, and totally in keeping with the tradition of the Middle Eastern Jew who spoke those inspired words.
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