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I know we've talked about this before, but

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Artiste:
How come a smart person sells dope for criminals ?

Can that be asked too ??

Hugs!

optom3:

--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on May 08, 2008, 10:30:31 am ---A couple of other possibilities.

I myself, when taking prescriptions meds, especially painkillers, have occasionally forgotten when I took the last dose. So maybe he just lost track.

And it's possible that he felt depressed enough that his attitude became careless. Not like he was trying to hurt himself, but more like he just didn't care enough to pay attention.



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I agree,it is all too easy to just take too many or a bad combination.Sometimes when I have had a migraine on top of the bi polar and insomnia on top.I just carry on taking meds.The problem is some of the depression meds actually fog your brain so much,you literally blank out and forget all the other meds you have taken.So you take something else.you become more groggy but you are not actually aware of how befuddled you are.
You are depressed in pain and desperate for sleep.
I have now reached the stage wher I literally write down what I have taken and what time.It is the only way I know I can be safe,if I am having a really bad day.
I have mixed so much in the past I think I have been incredibly lucky that I am still here.
The other problem is that the exhaustion also makes you groggy.
If I am having a diabolical day then my husband takes my meds and gives them to me at approprate intervals,so there can be no risk of me taking too much.
It really all does become a vicious cycle.
I would consider myself a reasonably intelligent woman,I have 2 masters and of of them is actually in bio/clinical chemistry.So I know exactly what different drugs do.Despite this I have come pretty close to taking way too many.That is why I keep a record now.
Heath probably had too many different drugs in his system.It literally can be just one extra pill,depending on the half life of everything else.It does not even need to be a lot of pills just a combination which are still present in your system due to longer half lifes,and that 1 extra tips the balance.As I said before soem of them befuddle your brain so even the brightest human loses track of what they have taken.
I hate thinking about it,but it has made me significantly more careful of what I take  so bless him,he is stiil doing good even now.

Artiste:
Merci optom !

You say:
    it has made me significantly more careful of what I take...       
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Optom:
may I say that I am happy that you are wise in being careful in taking medication !!

Maybe we can all replace pain with happiness and hugs !!  ??



Somehow? May I say, wish and hope... and find ways to do so !!  I always wish that for myself, and may I wish it be so for you too and others.

You have a Midas Touch which will make you seek ways to be helpful and happy !! I am so glad that you  make me happy! Tu es comme cette rose, si belle... de pensées et de coeur !!

Au revoir,
hugs!

BelAir:

--- Quote from: Elle on May 07, 2008, 03:53:36 pm ---How can a smart person have put SIX major drugs into his system? 

This is a piece I get really stuck on.  Any words of insight?  Or commiseration?

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I don't visit this particular forum very much (some sort of denial/compartmentalization/coping strategy all rolled into one), but I was having this same somewhat similar thought today...  (like, "how?  how on earth did it happen? !!!)

 :-\

BelAir:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on May 08, 2008, 01:57:41 am ---Oh Elle.

(((Elle)))

The one insight I gained from this whole disaster is that meds stay a lot longer in your system than I would have thought possible. I honestly didn't know that they can stay in your system over days and build up on another.

Wanna know my personal theory on what happened to Heath (and it's not more than that)? I think he changed to different meds after his return to the US. Maybe one day still taking what he had taken in London, the next day switching to another set of meds, hoping they would work better and not knowing that what he had taken the day before was still in his system and that the stuff could add up.

Still, it leaves the question why he took that stuff at all. Insomnia? Well, it happens to a lot of people, and I wouldn't interpret anything into it, if it were the only pills he had taken. Painkillers? Maybe the cold/supposed walking pneumonia he's said to have had at that point.
But anti-anxiety drugs? And the combination of those three types of meds? I'm sorry, but that doesn't speak of a person who is in synch with themselve. And that's one of the saddest things in this whole horrible story.

 :'(

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fwiw, I know lot's of "normal" (or as close to normal as you can be in this day and age) people who take anti-anxiety medications.  Not to sound dumb, but maybe it's a cultural thing.  you complain to your doctor about a particular emotional problem and lickety split you get an ant-anxiety medication?  sort of like an antibiotic...  (definitely not condoning it, but I think it's perhaps more "normal" in some cultures/areas than others...)

i guess what I am trying to say is that I don't necessarily think it means he wasn't in synch with himself.

your theory, chrissi, about switching drugs upon his arrival to the U.S. is interesting, and actually, quite logical, imo.  thanks.

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