Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond > Heath Ledger Remembrance Forum
I know we've talked about this before, but
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm ---I think we also don't know enough about the relationship between Michelle and Heath to speculate whether or not the idea of them getting back together would even be a good idea. I've always found is sort of odd that Michelle has been treated almost like the "widow" following Heath's death. But, they weren't even together.
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True, who knows what their relationship was at that point. But Michelle did act widowlike, so she may have felt like one. If nothing else, it would be devastating to lose your child's other parent.
LauraGigs:
I think you guys both have great points, Amanda and Fiona.
--- Quote from: optom3 ---It was I think his personality type to have bouts of endless energy . . .
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The flip side being that they find it so hard to relax and sleep. Sometimes it takes a competent, caring dr. or psy. to find a proper exercise and/or drug regimen. If that person is left to experiment the results can be disastrous, as we know. I also read that Heath was having a lot of back/joint pain (from cumulative falls and stunts many actors do). This will age you all by itself, and meds for this must also be managed well.
--- Quote from: Mandy ---Do you think, had he lived, he would have recovered and gone back to being the carefree, young, strong Heath we first fell in love with? I like to think that he and Michelle would have gotten back together . . .
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Hmm, I kind of have problems with that scenario too. I think Heath (to put it very simplistically) was entering into a more middle-aged phase: taking on more responsibility (directorial work, investments in restaurants & art colonies, etc.), parenting, and simply maturing — with all the emotional upheavals that can entail.
If he had survived the winter and pulled through emotionally, the "carefree, young, strong Heath" probably never would truly have returned. And I think we all need to remember that it was (at least in part) a manufactured image to make the real, cerebral Heath more marketable. (And by all accounts, he and Michelle were having problems for a while before Matilda was born, and stuck together for her sake. It basically may have been an on-set romance that was prolonged by parenthood, however committed each of them was to Matilda.)
--- Quote from: atz75 ---It's also possible that some of the answers to the open questions and blanks are things we really don't want to know or think about.
This is where our "space between what we know and what we try to believe" comes in to this situation.
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Absolutely.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm ---Well, I think it's hard to deny that something was seriously wrong or amiss during his last weeks or months. Something unpleasant (and we'll probably never know what) was causing him to buy and stock up on a large number of powerful prescription drugs. To even be in possession of so many at once (let alone take them at once) seems to indicate that he was possibly pretty desparately searching for something to help him with something. There are lots of blanks here because there's so much we don't know. But, we do know the cause of his death, which is unusual and hard for many folks to fathom. It's also possible that some of the answers to the open questions and blanks are things we really don't want to know or think about.
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For me, you said it best because you phrased it the most cautious, almost vague. Something went terribly wrong and not only on Jan 22, but a while before that date. That's all we know, the rest is only blanks.
--- Quote ---This is where our "space between what we know and what we try to believe" comes in to this situation.
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Coincidentally, we had exactly this sentence as TOTW that week in January.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on September 14, 2008, 02:01:44 pm ---True, who knows what their relationship was at that point. But Michelle did act widowlike, so she may have felt like one. If nothing else, it would be devastating to lose your child's other parent.
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Yes, I certainly understand that Michelle must continue to mourn Heath very profoundly. And, I'm sure that him being the father of her daughter is one of the major factors in that.
But, they were never even engaged. And, they had broken up a fair amount of time prior to Heath's death. In terms of the way the media played it, it still seemed/ seems odd to put her in the role of grieving widow.
Artiste:
Atz, are you sure that as you say:
they were never even engaged ?
May I ask ?
Au revoir,
hugs!
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