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TOTW 18/08: The lines from the trailer
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: SunShadow on May 21, 2008, 11:32:33 pm ---2 There are places we can't return
To me, this has several possible meanings:
1 - The literal (BBM)
2 - The place of innocence, where Ennis was before he learned the truth about himself
3 - The place of idealistic first love
4 - The lives Jack and Ennis led before their time on BBM
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I agree with Amanda. There are even more meanings. We all passed through a gay period in our lives, it's a natural part of growing up.
sel:
As English isn't my first language and I am not good with words even in my own language I hope I'll be able to express what I feel.
The There are places we can't return to me it means the time up on Brockback was a time when they still had a future ahead of them, and above all they had the freedom to choose what to do with their own lives. Yes, the world was hostile towards their love (even if Ennis at the time didn't acknowledge it as such) but they had the freedom to make decisions, to take a different path if they wanted to. They were no wives (Alma was only a girlfriend, she and Ennis hadn't even slept together yet), no children, Ennis in particular didn't have a family to report /to justify to, his father wasn't there to frighten/threaten him any longer, They had a chance, in my opinion a very big one too, and they missed it.
Brokeback wasn't just a place when they owned the world and nothing seemed wrong and of imagined power, the power was actually there, had they been able to see it and grasp it. Of course they did they best they could given the circumstances and with the knowledge they had at the time. Later came the commitments, wives, children, and they could no longer return to that place of power.
IMHO that's why Brokeback is a place they can't return to.
Yes, I think the 4 lines in the trailer encapsulate the movie pretty well.
--- Quote from: atz75 on May 21, 2008, 11:40:42 pm ---I'm just popping in to say this is an awesome topic for a TOTW! I'll weigh in tomorrow after I watch the trailer again (to refresh my memory). I can't watch YouTube at home because I'm on dial-up, so I'll sneak a look while I'm at work.
Also, was there more than one trailer? Why do I feel like there were at least two?
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I saw the Italian trailer on a DVD which I had the big pleasure to buy as a present for a friend, it features one of the deleted scenes, it's a very sexy, bare chested Jack standing on a bridge. I am unable to watch the trailer here as my Internet connection is too slow.
sel:
P.S. to my earlier post:
Prior to watching BbM I hadn't watched the trailer, all I knew was that it was a love story between two men.
The consequence was that I watched it 'unguarded', the result was like an astonishingly powerful wave had entered my soul.
Sorry, hope I haven't gone off topic ...
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: SunShadow on May 21, 2008, 11:32:33 pm ---2 There are places we can't return
To me, this has several possible meanings:
1 - The literal (BBM)
2 - The place of innocence, where Ennis was before he learned the truth about himself
3 - The place of idealistic first love
4 - The lives Jack and Ennis led before their time on BBM
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I think you are right on all acounts.
Many of these apply to me after seeing the film.
I can't watch the movie anymore. Just seeing the trailer causes a physically painful reaction. My chest tightens up, my heart beat increases.
I feel short of breath. Actually watching the movie I cry from begining to end. AFterwards I am so depressed for a long time. So, I can't go back to BBM either.
Number 2 and number 4 apply to me. After seeing the movie and coming to terms with what I am and what I had to do, my life was changed forever.
It is such a powerful movie for some of us.
injest:
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on May 22, 2008, 08:26:53 am ---I think you are right on all acounts.
Many of these apply to me after seeing the film.
I can't watch the movie anymore. Just seeing the trailer causes a physically painful reaction. My chest tightens up, my heart beat increases.
I feel short of breath. Actually watching the movie I cry from begining to end. AFterwards I am so depressed for a long time. So, I can't go back to BBM either.
Number 2 and number 4 apply to me. After seeing the movie and coming to terms with what I am and what I had to do, my life was changed forever.
It is such a powerful movie for some of us.
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this is a stage a lot of people went thru when they FIRST saw the film, Rich....you had so much going on in your life that you couldn't really go there...
I know it is hard but truthfully the depression you feel is actually a little bit positive...it means (IMO) that you are in a place you feel safe enough to let yourself 'feel' it. You know on a subconcsious level that you DO have friends you can call. Just give yourself time and it WILL get better...
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