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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on August 19, 2008, 06:23:24 pm ---Maybe its just an explanation showing, that he was not having much luck with the boys, and why he finally ended up with a woman.
He had probably taken the Jimbo thing as how it was always gonna be, if he wanted a man.....it was all too hard..(excuse the pun)....so when Laureen started flirting, and it was so much easier, he fell into it.
Two such different nights....one of rejection and almost humiiliation with Jimbo.......the next night, handed to him on a platter.
As he danced with Laureen, and the song was playing "No ones gonna love you like me".....Jack was daydreaming about someone else, another time, another place, but realized that in the real world, this is what was expected and this was how it was gonna have to be.....
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Yes, that's what I mean about part of the significance of the Jimbo scene... illustrating how hard it can be to find a same-sex partner outside of the context of any kind of real gay community. Even someone as charming and attractive as Jack was finding it both frustrating and threatening to make the kind of advances necessary to seek out a partner in his rural/ rodeo community.
I think the scene with Lureen does illustrate how relatively easy it was to find a partner in a heterosexual context. He could directly ask the bartender for advice about the woman of interest, he could dance in public with her and their flirty banter didn't need to be coded or clandestine.
Also, part of the reason there's such a point made with the bartender about the wealth of Lureen's family seems to be suggesting that Jack really was calculating a level of financial comfort for himself there. I think he was truly weighing the idea of at least the notion of material comfort if he knew he wouldn't be happy with the partner involved.
Anne Hathaway described her interpretation of the Jack/Lureen relationship as a "marriage of convenience" and I think it was just that right from this very first moment when Jack is thinking things over prior to her advances. I think L.D. is hostile towards Jack for many reasons, and one of them surely is that he probably perceived Jack to be a gold-digger.
Artiste:
Great thread subject Atz !
To me, that scene is many things !
Jimbo represents maybe danger, which is unwanted by Jack!!
Isn't Jimbo dangerous ?
Brown Eyes:
No, I don't think Jimbo is dangerous.
Sometimes I even wonder if Jack was right about Jimbo. Jack very well may have known more about Jimbo to encourage him to approach him at the bar. And, there's a moment when Jack and Jimbo lock eyes for a second where there's something interesting in Jimbo's eyes. It seems possible that Jimbo rejects Jack because the bartender is hovering so close and watching so close. And, he may have also been nervous because there were so many other people around (again my point about how hard it can be to find and connect with a partner as a single gay person).
Jimbo may genuinely have been rejecting Jack because he was straight... but he may also have just been another scared gay man.
Artiste:
Atz, may I disagree!
Jimbo is obviously straight and dangerous since he tells the others that Jack is gay ?
That is the way I see it: danger !
Au revoir,
hugs!
Katie77:
--- Quote from: atz75 on August 19, 2008, 09:47:14 pm ---No, I don't think Jimbo is dangerous.
Sometimes I even wonder if Jack was right about Jimbo. Jack very well may have known more about Jimbo to encourage him to approach him at the bar. And, there's a moment when Jack and Jimbo lock eyes for a second where there's something interesting in Jimbo's eyes. It seems possible that Jimbo rejects Jack because the bartender is hovering so close and watching so close. And, he may have also been nervous because there were so many other people around (again my point about how hard it can be to find and connect with a partner as a single gay person).
Jimbo may genuinely have been rejecting Jack because he was straight... but he may also have just been another scared gay man.
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I think you hit the nail on the head there Atz..........surely back then there would be some talk or curiosity about some of the men at those rodeos, and if Jack had heard something about Jimbo, he thought he would try to chat him up, but Jimbo certainly did not want to take up with Jack in front of all his pool playin mates.
When Jimbo says...."if I took a drink of every cowboy who wanted to buy me a drink....."...was he maybe telling Jack, that others have hit on him before with no luck......
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