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Importance of the Jimbo Scene
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: Lynne on October 15, 2008, 08:05:10 am ---Let me stretch the clown/jester a bit more...
Maybe (Jester Jimbo's role is to tell (Prince) Jack truths that no one else is allowed or able to? Can anyone expand on this?
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Well, it certainly seems true that clowns in general have a long history within literature and playwriting (Shakespeare, etc.).
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on October 13, 2008, 11:26:43 am ---The origins of clowns may go back as far as the Dionysian rituals of ancient Greece. This major diety was called the Liberator (Eleutherios), freeing one from one's normal self, by madness, ecstasy, or wine. Clowns serve an important purpose in art because they meet some deeply rooted needs in humanity: violation of taboos, the mockery of sacred and profane authorities and symbols, reversal of language and action, and a ubiquitous obscenity.
Fear of clowns is widespread enuff to have a name, it is called coulrophobia.
When Jack approached Jimbo at the bar, Jimbo was still wearing some of his whiteface makeup.
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And, it would be interesting to think more about Lee's comments here too. I wonder how our brief glimpse of Jimbo at the bar fits into the definition of the clown described in Lee's post above? I think it's significant that while Jimbo may have some make up remaining on his face, he's mostly completely out of costume. We wouldn't probably immediately know he's a clown if not for Jack's comments and by the use of his nickname. I wonder what Jimbo's real name is. I've always assumbed that Jimbo was his clown name.
Mandy21:
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 15, 2008, 09:05:06 am ---Well, it certainly seems true that clowns in general have a long history within literature and playwriting (Shakespeare, etc.).
And, it would be interesting to think more about Lee's comments here too. I wonder how our brief glimpse of Jimbo at the bar fits into the definition of the clown described in Lee's post above? I think it's significant that while Jimbo may have some make up remaining on his face, he's mostly completely out of costume. We wouldn't probably immediately know he's a clown if not for Jack's comments and by the use of his nickname. I wonder what Jimbo's real name is. I've always assumbed that Jimbo was his clown name.
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One of the things I was curious about was how did Jack even recognize Jimbo as the clown who helped save him? I mean, he was racing away from a marauding, angry bull at the time. How can you match up a person in full clown costume and makeup, to a guy sitting across from you at the bar later? I'm sure the announcers of the event gave the names of the rodeo clowns at the beginning, so perhaps Jack recognized the name Jimbo from some other event, do you think, and then put two and two together when he saw him at the bar? I can only think that Jack had seen Jimbo without his clown makeup at some time in the past, and took this one rescue as an opportunity to advance their prior meeting. Thoughts on that?
Artiste:
Lynne, can you detail ?
Front-Ranger:
I suddenly realized one reason why Jack reacted so strongly when the bartender suggested he try calf-roping!! It was because he flashed back to the time on the mountain when Ennis told him his dad was a "fine calf-roper." Even though Jack didn't know about the horrible incident with Earl yet (he wouldn't find that out until the reunion) he still knew enuff about Ennis' dad to hate him and his ilk. Does this ring true for anyone else?
Monika:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on February 08, 2009, 04:33:31 pm ---I suddenly realized one reason why Jack reacted so strongly when the bartender suggested he try calf-roping!! It was because he flashed back to the time on the mountain when Ennis told him his dad was a "fine calf-roper." Even though Jack didn't know about the horrible incident with Earl yet (he wouldn't find that out until the reunion) he still knew enuff about Ennis' dad to hate him and his ilk. Does this ring true for anyone else?
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why do you think Jack hates Ennis´s dad even before he knew about the Earl incident?
does the "fine calf-roper" line have some hidden message?
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