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Importance of the Jimbo Scene

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Artiste:
Merci Katie!

Openness and courage of opinion are important!!


Thanks for your delightful post!

You say:
        It is not my intent to change peoples opinion, but it doesn't stop me from wondering how they came to that opinion.         

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Indeed there is no need to change somebody else's opnion, like you have yours about this Jimbo scene! That is good! Surely you added to it too, as this thread evolved. I was not accepted when I mentioned maybe pederastic is that scene and/or worst anti-gay it is, and now I am happy that my opinion or proofs might help myself and maybe others too !!

I am glad that you add that you WONDER how opinions came about; that inquisitiveness always helps a person; and society gets better because of it, I say!

I aim still to dwell about that Jimbo scene and you and others have added to it, which I like and which I envisage much more from you and from others, as well as from  myself!

This way, maybe you would have added it or deleted this Jimbo scene had you been Lee? - may I ask you and all ??

Monika:

--- Quote from: Artiste on February 08, 2009, 09:38:13 pm ---Buffy, isn't there also the risk to skate easily on such a scene? And miss many things about it?

--- End quote ---
Sure, that can be the case

Artiste:
Merci buffy!

I skated easily at first, that Jimbo scene... unfortunately!

And now I see more about it! Do you?

I would also relate it to other scenes?
(I am happy that Katie somehow suggested that in a way - related scenes to it!)

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Katie77 on February 08, 2009, 09:05:49 pm ---To insinuate that in the middle of this movie, Ang would add unnessary and perverted metaphorical conversation, which would only be recognised by people with likewise thoughts, is absurd...absolutely absurd.

--- End quote ---

In my three-plus years as a Brokie here and at imdb, I have quite often seen people theorize that the bartender was suggesting Jack look for younger guys.

It's a bit implausible to me, because it would seem like an odd thing for a bartender to recommend. But not entirely out of the realm of possibility. Jack had trouble with bulls (the real bull, plus the figurative bull, Jimbo), and might do better with calves -- that is, younger bulls, younger guys. Also, since the bartender was a pretty close witness to Jack's flirtation with Jimbo, he would likely be clued into Jack's interest in males in general.

I think Jack gets angry about the rejection but also feels threatens by the guys around the pool table, and bolts from the room so as to avoid any potential trouble. He's angry at the bartender either simply because he's embarrassed the bartender witnessed his strike out with Jimbo, or because he interprets the bartender to be referring to young guys and resents it because he's not interested in pedophilia.

Artiste:
Merci beacoup serious!

Your post is indeed revealing much.

Of course about pedophilia, no one wants to talk about that!

And there seems to be absolutely no interest in Jack to like much younger guys than he is (or pedophilia even),
and maybe that is why that JUMBO scene exist (among other reasons);
so Lee and/or the screen writer(s) wanted to show that homosexuals are NOT pedophiles!
Could that be ONE reason for the JIMBO scene?

(Considering that many cultures or persons still consider homosexuals (gay men) as ONLY being perverts or pedophiles??)

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