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The mysterious "I love you" and other nearly indiscernible moments
Brown Eyes:
OK.... here goes.
So, there are people in the world who believe that you can hear Jack say "f*** me" twice in the midst of the action in tent scene #1. I think I know what they're talking about (there seems to be at least one moment where this could be a possibility)... but I truly believe that it's just Jack moaning and people projecting their own ideas onto the situation. Actually, this is a case where I think it's very important for the encounter to happen in intense silence (other than breathing, etc.). So, I don't want to believe that he actually says this.
But, there it is... the first tent scene controversy... do with it what you will.
:o :-\
wolf:
latjoreme,
I love the phrase 'fetishizer of repression' too :laugh:. Though I think our cultural aversion to repression and imperceptibility is what prompts our qualification of his Very Chinese approach to storytelling. Off topic I know, but one of the things that tickles me about my husband's professed disapproval of the film is the fact it's in conflict with his own Very Chinese appreciation of a Very Chinese film :laugh: :laugh:.
As for the tantalizingly inaccessible piece of dialogue, I'm working on a tame version for your extrapolation ;). Gimme a minute.
Ok, how about this. Jack, at the height of ... proceedings ... gasps two words. They're a request, you might say. Possibly the most commonly gasped or grunted or moaned two words in the history dirty talk. There ya go, that aught do it :P.
w
JennyC:
--- Quote from: wolf on June 06, 2006, 11:47:11 pm ---Jack, at the height of ... proceedings ... gasps two words. They're a request, you might say. Possibly the most commonly gasped or grunted or moaned two words in the history dirty talk. There ya go, that aught do it :P.
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I quote wolf’s post only because the words did not appear there :P.
I swear people hear all different kind of things in that scene. Someone also said Jack said “Ennis” in the mist of his moans.
wolf:
--- Quote from: atz75 on June 06, 2006, 11:40:43 pm ---OK.... here goes.
So, there are people in the world who believe that you can hear Jack say "f*** me" twice in the midst of the action in tent scene #1. I think I know what they're talking about (there seems to be at least one moment where this could be a possibility)... but I truly believe that it's just Jack moaning and people projecting their own ideas onto the situation. Actually, this is a case where I think it's very important for the encounter to happen in intense silence (other than breathing, etc.). So, I don't want to believe that he actually says this.
But, there it is... the first tent scene controversy... do with it what you will.
:o :-\
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couldn't agree more! as stated, I've heard it just once, and while it was a bit confronting, a bit steamy, and a bit kinda freaky-cool, I'm glad I haven't heard it at any other time. as you say, it's one scene that needs to be played out silently. a complete absence of verbal communication. the intensity and urgency would be lost if either demonstrated the presence of mind to formulate a sentence, even a two word one! lordy me, now I have to go and watch that scene again just to erase the naughty words :P :P.
w
Brown Eyes:
Heya wolf,
Nice post. Welcome to BetterMost by the way. Pour yourself some coffee and help yourself to some cherry cake.
:)
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