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The mysterious "I love you" and other nearly indiscernible moments
Mikaela:
It's weird...... I don't think the "I love you" is really there. I personally believe it's just Ennis exhaling strongly, audibly, unevenly. Nevertheless, now that I know exactly where it is, now that I know how many here do hear him clearly saying"I love you" - I'm hearing it too. At least I'll agree it's a possibility he may actually and intentionally be whispering it - keeping it so low-key as to be almost indiscernible, but still *there*.
By now I don't think it will ever be possible for me to watch that moment in the film again without automatically hearing - and thinking - "I love you". Which adds volumes to the depth and emotion and sheer force of the scene. So a warm thank you to everyone who hears it without any shadow of a doubt! :)
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on August 24, 2006, 06:49:13 pm ---By now I don't think it will ever be possible for me to watch that moment in the film again without automatically hearing - and thinking - "I love you". Which adds volumes to the depth and emotion and sheer force of the scene. So a warm thank you to everyone who hears it without any shadow of a doubt! :)
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I myself do have a shadow of a doubt. But only a shadow -- I'm maybe 85 percent sure. Part of it is that the movie is so full of these nearly indiscernible moments, others of which have been verified 100 percent, that it isn't implausible (it just seems like yet another trick of Ang's to drive us crazy); part is that those three exhales or twitches or whatever they are so neatly fit that intepretation; part is the way the scene cuts away to Mrs. Twist immediately afterward; part is that it's what I'd probably say under the circumstances -- what I probably wouldn't be able to keep myself from saying -- if I were Ennis. And part, to be honest, is my really wanting it to be there because, as you say, it "adds volumes to the depth and emotion and sheer force of the scene." The scene is pretty much perfect without it, but with it, it's more than perfect. So, as always when something is sufficiently ambiguous, I simply choose the interpretation that makes me happiest (or least sad).
I know some would call that wishful thinking, but that's not entirely accurate either. I do think there's a strong objective basis for it, too.
Penthesilea:
I was once one of those in opposotion to "I love you". I was sure it is not there and it is only wishful thinking of those who believed it's there.
After Katherine described very detailed, when and where to look for it, I watched the scene with volume cranked up. Watched it repeatedly and watched it on slow-motion.
I'm still not sure about it. But I altered my opinion from a definite 'No' to a 'could be'. I definately hear something. And it could be I love you.
Darn. I've lent my DVD to my friend, so I can't check it again right now. When I have my DVD back, I'll make my husband listening carefully to this scene. He's a neutral observer. I won't tell him what he is supposed to hear or not hear at first. I'll just ask him whether he hears anything that could be more than exhaling at all.
I'll report back (if he won't call the men with the straightjacket :laugh:).
dly64:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on August 25, 2006, 04:06:39 pm ---Darn. I've lent my DVD to my friend, so I can't check it again right now. When I have my DVD back, I'll make my husband listening carefully to this scene. He's a neutral observer. I won't tell him what he is supposed to hear or not hear at first. I'll just ask him whether he hears anything that could be more than exhaling at all.
I'll report back (if he won't call the men with the straightjacket :laugh:).
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YIKES!! No way could I lend out my copy of BBM! I even have two DVD's ... but one is for home and the other is for when I travel. :-\ CRAZY, I know!
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 25, 2006, 04:52:39 pm ---YIKES!! No way could I lend out my copy of BBM! I even have two DVD's ... but one is for home and the other is for when I travel. :-\ CRAZY, I know!
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I have two, too :laugh:
But one is dubbed in German, so it's not fit to prove anything.
I never thought I would ever lend my original (English) DVD to anyone. But my only fellow-Brokie in real-life asked me for it. And she can't even speak English! Talking about crazy. She can't understand what is said, but wanted to see the movie in it's original language, with the original voices of the actors, nonetheless.
I don't know if I had lend it to any other person but her. And fortunaltely I have no reason to do so, because I don't know any person who likes to see movies in English. Though I have no problems to lend out the German version, because it's the English one which is closer to my heart.
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