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The mysterious "I love you" and other nearly indiscernible moments
nic:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 07, 2006, 02:34:22 pm ---snip...And then, immediately after that, cut to Mrs. Twist in the kitchen.
*Sigh.* I sure would like to see the famous extended version of that scene.
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:o Oooh oooh - I have not yet heard about an extended version of that scene!! You mean the shirts in the closet scene you were just talking about? I have not yet developed a sufficient degree of "emotional immunity" that would allow me to watch the DVD over & over again so I haven't checked out this particular scene in detail yet. I have a whole list of things to look out for over the entire movie - I need to set aside a whole day! But tell me about the extended scene briefly - does anything else happen??
Please say Jack appears & says it was all a big mix up & they ride off into the sunset together...
Daphne7661:
Hello Everyone,
I am new to BetterMost, and, obviously, am a BBM-aholic!!! I truly adore this movie and Jack & Ennis....
I have seen the film nearly 50 times so far and want to share with you what I know of what is said in the second tent scene and also in Jack's boyhood room/closet when Ennis finds the shirts.
I have watched intently about the "Come 'ere/I'm Sorry/It's'awright" and the "Oh Jack/I Love You" and I can tell you this:
In the second tent scene:
Ennis approaches the tent and goes in, but says absolutely nothing. He is a wreck. He is very nervous and jumpy. When he kneels down in front of Jack, he has his hat in his hand in front of him, but does nervously and quickly start to lean into Jack to kiss him, but Jack kind of stops him by taking the hat away and putting it off to the side. This disarms Ennis' approach. Then, Jack puts his hand to Ennis' face and ever so slightly pulls Ennis toward him. Ennis is now really nervous, so Jack says quietly, "Come 'ere." Because Ennis is so nervous, Jack now says "C'mon" because he can't get Ennis to actually lock lips right away. Anyway, they kiss, but as soon as they unlock lips, Jack feels a pang of guilt for having "pushed" Ennis into kissing him, so Jack closes his eyes, hangs his head and says "I'm sorry." Then Jack looks up at Ennis and says "It's'awright" twice, then "Lie Back; C'mon".
In the closet scene at the end:
Ennis finds the shirts, can't believe it, holds the hanger in his left hand and with his right hand tenderly touches the pocket and says "Oh Jack". Then, he brings the shirts close to him, caressing them, hugging them, and tries to breathe in deeply the smell of Jack, (though, from the book, we know there really was no smell left). As he is breathing out, he says "I Love You."
Hope this helps....
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: nic on June 07, 2006, 03:55:00 pm ---Please say Jack appears & says it was all a big mix up & they ride off into the sunset together...
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Sorry, nic, it's not quite that good. Reportedly the extended scene was shown at the Independent Spirit awards, and I guess it lasts much longer and Ennis cries harder. I've never heard of anyone who has actually seen it except rtprod. Here's a link to a long-ago thread in which it's discussed on and off throughout:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=1016.0
Hold the phone! What a coincidence. I just glanced through the Chez Tremblay board and found this brief discussion, from just a few days ago:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=2324.0
So it's still mysterious. If anyone knows of its whereabouts, please post it immediately and prominently and alert everybody.
--- Quote from: Daphne7661 on June 07, 2006, 04:01:11 pm ---I am new to BetterMost, and, obviously, am a BBM-aholic!!! I truly adore this movie and Jack & Ennis....
I have seen the film nearly 50 times so far and want to share with you what I know of what is said in the second tent scene and also in Jack's boyhood room/closet when Ennis finds the shirts.
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Daphne, welcome! And what a way to start! Either you have much better eyes and ears than I do, or it really helps to see it 50 times (I'm only at about 13 or 14, myself). You may be new to BetterMost, but obviously not new to the movie. I am so glad you're here.
Jack says "Lie back, c'mon" in TS2?! That's news to me. Also, yours is the best explanation for "I'm sorry" we've got -- the only explanation, in fact! :D
And in the closet scene, Ennis also says "Oh Jack"?!? :o :-* :'(
Looks like I am destined to spend another afternoon glued to the TV screen, volume cranked. :-\
Mikaela:
--- Quote ---Jack says "Lie back, c'mon" in TS2?! That's news to me.
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According to the captions on the UK version of the BBM DVD, he says; I'm sorry. It's all right. It's all right. Lie back, come on.
I've never managed to hear those last few words, and I'm more than uncertain about the "I'm sorry" - so I did a serious double-take when I saw those closed captions, figuring that there was danger of another "what did he say" gale coming. ;) The subtitling in the local cinemas where I live didn't have the "lie back" either - but they *did* have the "I'm sorry", though. Seems noone, not even semi-official sources, can agree about the dialogue in that scene.....
Daphne7661:
Thanks for the welcome!! I am happy to be here...
Yes, after that many times viewing this film, I think I finally was able to see, hear and distinguish what was being said by all the body language and, of course, by cranking my TV up as loud as I could....
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