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The mysterious "I love you" and other nearly indiscernible moments
vkm91941:
This reminds me of all the controversy about the Rolling Stones and Beatles Albums in the 60's having secret messages if played in reverse. When you played it in reverse you got a boat load of jibberish and some people made words out of it and other couldn't hear it at all. Or like the EVP recordings parapsychologist make in so called haunted houses.
It's the power of the mind trying to make sense of what we're hearing so it fits it into a familiar model and what you hear is based on what you want to hear consciously or unconsciously based on your relationship with the characters. There is no right or wrong answer as far as I'm concerned unless someone can get Heath and Jake to come on here and tell us what they actually said.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: vkm91941 on June 09, 2006, 02:31:09 am ---This reminds me of all the controversy about the Rolling Stones and Beatles Albums in the 60's having secret messages if played in reverse.
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Here's what this reminds me of: In the early '90s, when the Disney cartoon "The Lion King" was still in theaters, some right-wing Christian groups protested that at one point in the movie the word S-E-X appears in letters formed out of dust that flies up when a lion flops onto the ground. I didn't have kids at the time, so I said, Yeah right, and pretty much forgot all about it.
Cut to about 1999. I now have two little kids and the "Lion King" video. One day I was sort of half watching for about the 130th time when I happened to glance at the screen and suddenly there it was: S-E-X, in big, clear letters, formed out of dust that flies up when a lion flops onto the ground. The word appears for about half a second and then dissipates. I rewound. There it was again. Without a doubt. It flashes by quickly, but the letters are clear and large and you do not have to use your imagination to see them. Once I noticed it, I saw it every time I watched that scene (about 130 more times).
Why, I have no idea. Slow day in the animation room? (I hope this goes without saying, but it didn't bother me -- I was delighted! Even if my kids had been old enough to read, I would have been fine with it.)
(More info for Lion King owners who want to check: It's around the time Simba is talking to Rafiki, just before or after Mufasa's ghost appears in the night sky.)
Sometimes things sound too hokey to be true, like the rumor that you'll hear about Paul McCartney's death if you play Abbey Road backward. I used to think that way about the "I love you," which is why I never even bothered to look for it. But now that I've seen it, it's like the S-E-X. Hard to believe, but it really is there.
(In fairness, I should add that the ILY is much harder to detect. The S-E-X can be seen from the couch.)
nic:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 07, 2006, 04:26:42 pm ---Sorry, nic, it's not quite that good. Reportedly the extended scene was shown at the Independent Spirit awards, and I guess it lasts much longer and Ennis cries harder. I've never heard of anyone who has actually seen it except rtprod. Here's a link to a long-ago thread in which it's discussed on and off throughout:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=1016.0
Hold the phone! What a coincidence. I just glanced through the Chez Tremblay board and found this brief discussion, from just a few days ago:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=2324.0
So it's still mysterious. If anyone knows of its whereabouts, please post it immediately and prominently and alert everybody.
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The extra footage has now been posted :o Check out that second link above and it will give details!!
SFEnnisSF:
--- Quote from: goadra on June 08, 2006, 10:51:28 pm ---I'm still in the "maybe" camp on this one, but on TOB (I) there was some discussion of Jack's name "spelled out subliminally" as Ennis leaves the Twists' house:
"The right side of the windshield of Ennis's truck makes the 'J'. The roof of the house makes the 'A'. The cloud above the peak makes the 'C'. The large tree to the right of the house makes the 'K', although you have to fill in the bottom right leg of the letter."
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Oh yes, it's definitely there!
welliwont:
--- Quote from: nic on June 07, 2006, 05:07:49 pm ---How about the subliminal messages that Ang Lee put in to flash up every few seconds: "you will love & adore my film", "you will become utterly obsessed by this story", "you will fall uncontrollably in love with both Jack & Ennis", etc etc :D
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That's genius!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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