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isabelle:
--- Quote from: Lucise on July 10, 2006, 05:22:37 pm ---I hope he is not remembered by that foul.
I hope people look beyond that mistake he made yesterday.
J'espère que Zidane sera remémoré comme l'excellent footballeur qu'il est !! :)
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Lovely, Milli ;)
Yes, he will be remembered for the moments, years, of sheer happiness and pride that he gave us and especially many youths here. :) I think deep inside we can't help thinking "he shouldn't have done it, but hell, he is only human!". And we still love him.
Giancarlo:
--- Quote from: Lucise on July 10, 2006, 03:55:36 pm ---I am not going to argue with you. I am not interested in accusing you of anything ..lol
All I am saying is that its easy to say "Ignore it" if someone makes a racist or nasty comment, but its not that easy.
And nope, I dont have evidence that you punch out people (that was not my point), but verbally, you dont let anything slide..do ya? That's what I was saying.
I am not supporting what Zidane did. I can see him losing his temper if he was insulted ...
I am not a violent person at all, but there are times I am ready to fight with someone if they are racist or call me a name ..
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I would of told the guy "to shut up" and not comment on me like that, but I do not go around physically assaulting people. I don't let anything slide and I go after people who attack me. I do not assault them. For one, you don't even know what was said. So there is your first assumption. Zidane kicked a player in the past in 1998, and was red-carded for it.
You are ready to fight someone physically if someone is a racist or calls you a name? Wow, you must have a long police record of assault, if that is the case. I keep it to words.
Remember the saying: Sticks and stones break my bones, but words never hurt me.
Cliche I know.. but applicable.
Unfortunately Zidane will be remembered for that foul. I personally wanted Del Piero as the best player in the cup.
JennyC:
Still no word on the excat exchange, but here is an article about the incident, probably some rumors too.
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-wcup-zidane&prov=ap&type=lgns
Here is part of that article:
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But lashing out is nothing new to Zidane, who grew up playing on concrete in an impoverished immigrant neighborhood of Marseille, where fouls and insults are met with instant retribution.
Perhaps he could never shake off that you-or-me mentality.
"You can take the man out of the rough neighborhood, but you can't take the rough neighborhood out of the man," striker Thierry Henry said Sunday.
At this year's World Cup, where Zidane sat out one match for getting two yellow cards in the first round, he sent a message to his teammates. In a rare television interview, he said, "We die together."
...
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Even with the fuol, Zidane is still widely appraised by his teammates.
--- Quote ---Zidane's teammates had all wanted to help him to one last trophy. Failing that, they refused to kick him when he was down.
"For all that Zidane has done for the national team, you have to say 'Thank you and well done,"' said striker David Trezeguet, the only player to miss his penalty kick in the shootout.
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Lumière:
--- Quote from: Giancarlo on July 11, 2006, 12:15:40 am ---
You are ready to fight someone physically if someone is a racist or calls you a name? Wow, you must have a long police record of assault, if that is the case.
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:laugh:. Thanks for the laugh!
--- Quote ---Unfortunately Zidane will be remembered for that foul.
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Speak for yourself! (Well you do that already, rather arrogantly if I might add. So I think you got that covered.)
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The Italian night of celebration: :)
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