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Is it back???? Time again for moustaches?
Front-Ranger:
Older sex is a taboo?? Latjoreme, here's my response: :o :-X :-\ ??? >:( :-\ :P :)
Get thee a copy of Gail Parent's Sex and the Seasoned Woman posthaste!! Where did U go Mrs. Robinson, latjoreme needs a talking-to from U!! (You guys will have to provide your own backtalk on this one.)
David:
Ha ha ha! I know what you meant.
Very true though. The public likes to see the "Pretty People" in their movies and love scenes. Let's face it, the actors were not anything like the descriptions in the original story.
It is a cold reality in the work force too. Companies like to hire an attractive receptionist and sales reps. If you were born with exceptional good looks, you go alot farther in life that us who don't. :-\
serious crayons:
Whoa!!! Hold on there, cowgirl, I mean in movies only! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Don't worry, as someone almost 10 years older than Jack and Ennis were at the END of the movie, I am definitely not talking about real life!!!!
Of course, there are exceptions in movies, too, Mrs. Robinson being one. Harold and Maude. That one with Meryl Streep and Robert DeNiro. Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson (Something's Gotta Give), Shirley McLaine and Jack Nicholson (Terms of Endearment; though did they actually have sex? Can't remember now). For that matter, almost any movie with Jack Nicholson!
Actually, sex involving older men is no big deal in movies. It's sex involving older women that's pretty close to an absolute taboo. Those examples above are exceptions that prove the rule.
And of course BBM does not involve older women at all. But it's a special case. I thought the taboo might apply here because they're both older (though far from old), and it seems as if movies usually require that at least one member of the couple be under 35.
Also, I was thinking about the Salon review of BBM. No time to look it up now, but it was something like, "the scenes on Brokeback are engaging because young love is almost always pretty" or something to that effect. I don't think that critic is homophobic or even ageist (though I do question her pan of Brokeback). But it suggested to me that there's something in human nature that would prefer to watch younger people have sex.
David, your post came in while I was writing this. Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 15, 2006, 11:06:30 am --- But it suggested to me that there's something in human nature that would prefer to watch younger people have sex.
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Maybe because younger people are more likely to be in good physical condition, no wrinkles, no gray hairs, unlike us more, ahem, mature types?
Hey, I'm guilty of this myself. And the entire, er, adult entertainment industry is built on this. If I want to watch a middle-aged, bald/gray-haired guy with gray chest hair and a waistline only a little smaller than his chest, I'll stand in front of a mirror and ... oh, never mind! ::)
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 15, 2006, 09:54:21 am ---it's a little extra reminder of masculinity. More in your face, so to speak. It's hard to say, since they don't kiss, period, after the reunion scene.
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This is exactly what I meant. The moustache (whether people find it attractive or not when it comes to a love scene on film) is definitely an extra marker of "masculinity." At least we do see them embrace in the tent and at the end of the argument... but a full on kiss would look very different from the early tent scenes and reunion. It's interesting too that Jack has that moustache for the bulk of their relationship, it seems, or at least half of it. I think this says a lot about Ennis and his sexuality too. I'm sure Jack would have shaved it off if he realized that Ennis didn't like it... But, I think the moustache, and Ennis's implicit approval of it, demonstrate just how much Ennis must like kissing men (since it's obviously one big and unmistakeable difference in kissing a man vs. a woman).
I still feel like this might be an odd topic, but I do think there's something interesting here...
:-\
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