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At what moment in BBM did you realize that they were falling in love?
brokeplex:
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Ennis is disappointed at many levels in the foreshortened summer work on Brokeback Mountain. He is disappointed that his "arcadia" experience with Jack is coming to an end, and he is disappointed that his wages will be reduced.
We may be reading too much into Ennis to believe that in Aug 1963 he was conscious of how deep his feelings were for Jack.
Ennis was in massive and profound denial about his sexuality, do not underestimate how denial can affect the conscious mind.
I believe that he finally consciously admitted to himself that he loved Jack only when he held the two shirts up to his face while in the closet at OMT's spread in 1983. One of the saddest tragedies in a tragic love story.
myprivatejack:
Hi again,Brokeplex¡
I agree with you that Ennis doesn´t admit his love for Jack until he discovered he shirts in Twist home,but,don´t you think that this moment was the end of a long journey of self-discovering?A journey that perhaps began with the conversation with Cassie who,in some way,taught him what real love was.
I think he was very shocked at the end of their BBM summer because for a few weeks in his life,he felt loved and with someone who cared for him,-we must not forget that both of them were some uprooted boys...-.But at the same time,he knew he must put himself face to face with the real life,that one that doesn´t allow guys like them,he must keep on being a "real" man...And his affair with Jack and,above all,what he felt for him,were an important obstacle to get it,´cause it had changed all his world,his life and his rules.I think Ennis,in some way,loved and hated Jack and himself for this changes.
Regarding to when I realised they were falling in love,I think that in the scene when Ennis speaks "more than in a year"they seem to be already quite smitten,IMO.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: myprivatejack on December 20, 2007, 03:33:16 pm ---Hi again,Brokeplex¡
I agree with you that Ennis doesn´t admit his love for Jack until he discovered he shirts in Twist home,but,don´t you think that this moment was the end of a long journey?
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You've made some great points ! But I am going to have to disagree with you on the most important point that you made. The central tragedy in this tragic story is that Ennis only begins his journey of self-awareness at age 40 after the shock of the death of the man that he loves(d). His painful epiphany in the closet is the beginning for Ennis to lead an "authentic" life (Sartre), or as I like to put it more in the American English I am comfortable with, a"justified" life (from a line in the Peckinpah film "Ride the High Country").
Artiste:
Thanks myprivatejack, thanks Front-Ranger, and thanks brokeplex!!!
Wow, sure is interesting are your comments!
Isn't love between two individuals much more too??
The first glances of Ennis and Jack, are they not also important??
Hugs!!!
Merry, Merry, Merry Christmas and Gay Holidays happy and safe to you and to all on earth!!
Oregondoggie:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on December 21, 2007, 12:59:56 am ---You've made some great points ! But I am going to have to disagree with you on the most important point that you made. The central tragedy in this tragic story is that Ennis only begins his journey of self-awareness at age 40 after the shock of the death of the man that he loves(d). His painful epiphany in the closet is the beginning for Ennis to lead an "authentic" life (Sartre), or as I like to put it more in the American English I am comfortable with, a"justified" life (from a line in the Peckinpah film "Ride the High Country").
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Alas, the short story ends with the terrible riddle: "There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it."
Annie Proulx saw an older cowhand staring wistfully at the young men playing pool in a bar in Sheridan, Wyoming. He is alone.
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