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Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
notBastet:
--- Quote from: louisev on July 14, 2006, 08:13:52 pm ---And that does make him dishonest... however, I also think that makes him kind... in his own Jack way. He knew Ennis would be upset if he found out he had had sex with other men, and so he covered that up in order to pacify him.
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You are right here... I think that's why he did it too. He wanted Ennis loved and happy, he didn't want to upset him. However, I have been thinking, what if Jack had 'fessed up to it... maybe, just maybe, that might have helped Ennis come to terms with himself a bit earlier in life. It was just a little thing nagging me, I've always thought Jack brought as much baggage to the 'relationship' as Ennis did... (that's okay, we've all got baggage, it was just a missing piece of the baggage puzzle in my mind.) Maybe if Jack had 'fessed up there would have just been a gigantic fight, who knows. But to me, the 'what if' there is just another layer to the tragedy.
(Ellery certainly has baggage as well!)
notBastet:
neatfreak - that was a sweet and lovely thing you said back there. thanks.
MaineWriter:
I am not quoting but this is in response to nB's comment about Jack lying...
This is one of the problems and one of the reasons people can so easily get into screaming fights about this story/movie, etc....what exactly is "canon"? I know Louise uses the New Yorker story, but the story published in the Wyoming stories book and the story to screenplay book is different...and not just the addition of the prologue paragraph. (I believe it was Natali, [Opinionista] who actually went through and did a line by line comparison....that document is floating around here somewhere). People tell me (I haven't seen her in person) that Annie has publicly stated that the "Close Range" story is the one she wrote. She was unhappy with the New Yorker edits. So what is canon? The first thing published? The author's vision?
Then a movie gets made and we have more versions...multiple screenplays, plus a story on film. What is a fanfic writer (and reader) to believe? For me, for my story, I guess I took the movie as canon, in that I had Jack admit to Ennis he had never lied to him. I don't think movie!Jack ever did lie (correct me if I am wrong on this). Story!Jack, as nB noted, did. As commented on, that one lie changed many things. In my view, for my story, there were no lies. Of course, there were other issues.
As for Ennis and Ellery...no, no lies. Info not divulgied, yet, yes...but no lies.
louisev:
The only reason I used the New Yorker story is because it was all I had. I didn't get "Close Range" (mainly because the summaries of the other stories did not appeal to me. So it wasn't so much that I "spurned" the "original story" but that I didn't (and don't) have it.
David:
"Hey Ellery? I'm over at the Grocery store and they're out a Vasoline!"
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