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Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
LoveEmBoys:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on July 05, 2006, 04:51:01 pm ---I explained that not all gay guys even participate in anal sex and that those who do, 70% want you to jump them! not the other way around! He was amazed and relieved. I think he felt more at ease after that.
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LOL Great response David! It still staggers me the level of incomprehension there is about homosexuality -- I mean I know I was naieve not too long ago, but at least I was neutral about it. Sad all the fear and hatred when there is no cause for it.
M
Lumière:
Interesting discussions all :)
I didnt get to that chapter yet...Gotta wait till I get home to read it.
I notice that Ennis is building a very comfortable relationship with Dupree and I have no doubt that the fact that Dupree identifies as a straight man is making it easier for Ennis. Firstly because Dupree won't be trying to hit on him or his man, and secondly because Dupree is this masculine figure who is not at all like the fem boys Ennis loves to despise :) I am just thrilled that Ennis has another friend aside from Ellery and Wes&Edna. It gets tricky 'cause Ennis' lover is Dupree's boss ...
Edit to add:
I was typing this message and my boss came in and called me for a meeting, so I had to post what I had so far..lol!
Anyway, I agree that it may be abit out of character for Ennis to discuss his sex life with Dupree (especially since Ennis is usually very touchy about his private life). On the other hand, maybe his relationship with Dupree is progressing to the level where he feels comfortable/confident enough in Dupree to know that he will be discrete with Ennis' confidences.
Years ago, when I met my best friend, we'd only known each other for a week, and I felt so comfortable with her that I was telling her stuff I had never told anyone else before ... lol, I guess it just depends on the bond and trust that both parties have forged with each other.
louisev:
I love this discussion.
Someone commented a few chapters ago about "Ennis going out of character" when he told Junior about how it was "good for boys to have a queer bar to go to to meet up with each other" and Junior replying that it was disgusting.
I made a reply on my livejournal explaining what happens when Ennis goes and does something "unEnnislike", like confiding something about the dominance/submission relationship to Dupree. First of all, Ennis automatically seems to trust straight men more. Because he identifies with them. He would not have fallen in love with Ellery if he were fem, and that made him okay for Ennis to imagine having a relationship with. He is sitting in a bar where there is a whole gaggle of fem boys acting fem and this is constantly in his face and causes him to ruminate on the nature of his --- admittedly different --- relationship with Ellery, even though there is a marked top/bottom preference in their relationship as well.
One of the things people find a godsend after reading/seeing BBM was having an outlet for communication of their own secrets once they confronted difficult things about themselves... their homosexuality, their isolation, a hidden relationship. Ennis is walking step by step out of a very long closeted life, and having made some initial steps, he is urgently desperate for confidants, and he cannot trust these "fem boys" (part of his annoyance with them.) The only suitable confidant aside from his lover (one man is not enough, he learned that with Jack - to serve as lover, friend, and confidant) is someone else who he respects as a man, someone straight, someone who isn't a caricature of homosexuality that cannot relate to him. Someone with some intelligence, sensitivity, and more than anything, openness to learn more about what he himself is going through. He knows Dupree is curious, but not in a maudlin or casual way, but in a true desire to know and to be able to relate to both Ennis and Ellery, his friends.
I hope that explains what I am digging for here.
Lumière:
Very well said Louise! :) I agree with your thinking there!
pastorfred:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on July 05, 2006, 04:09:24 pm --- And for Dupree to hear that his Boss is submissive is a bad thing.
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Possible *SPOILERS* follow:
Since it's Dupree it may not be a problem at all. Ellery is not a submissive at the office at all. Wes dreams of Ellery's calling him, "sir," for goodness sake. If anyone tried to dominate Ellery in the context of work, Ellery would slap him down so hard that it'd be awhile before he could get back up. Ellery is a submissive at home because he's sick and tired of being so very dominant all day long in his job. Nobody but Ennis could ever know how much gentle nurturing Ellery needs.
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