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Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
gn411:
WOW, What a weekend E & E had. Great Job Louise.
ALL: Question, At what point, Where or when in the story did (your opinion) Ennis fall in love with Ellery? And the same question, when did Ellery fall in love with Ennis.
louisev:
okay gang, the good news is I finished my change order and I'm waiting for the PM, that means I am in chat and working on chapter er, what chapter is it? 72? 73? I cant remember
pastorfred:
--- Quote from: magicmountain on July 10, 2006, 06:59:09 am ---Pastorfred can you briefly telll us what in your view these Ennis/Jackarchetypes represent and how far Ellery might be in some way an extension of Jack as well as a unique persona in his own right? Sorry if this sounds like an exam question!!!
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I love this question! I could write an essay, but you asked for a brief response. I hope we'll discuss the archetype question a lot more.
Ennis and Jack are archetypes of men who love each other, like Achilles and Patroclus or David and Jonathan. They bring the archetypes into our own time, and their tragedy leads all of us to examine our loves and lives.
Ellery is very much his own man, a participant in the archetype of Ennis and Jack, as would be any man who loves another man "like life itself." He is also a paradigm in his own right, a man who is comfortable in his own skin, emotionally balanced and generous. I'm thinking that there is a kind of forming archetype around him: We all have known people who help us take the next step in our growth as a person.
One of the most beautiful aspects of the love between Ennis and Ellery is the way they draw strength from each other. Each man is more fully himself because of the relationship they share. As Ennis comes out of his emotional repression, he is able to provide Ellery the safe haven for healing and growth that Ellery has given him. That is a paradigm for a love relationship to benefit all of us.
louisev:
--- Quote from: gn411 on July 10, 2006, 09:00:32 am ---WOW, What a weekend E & E had. Great Job Louise.
ALL: Question, At what point, Where or when in the story did (your opinion) Ennis fall in love with Ellery? And the same question, when did Ellery fall in love with Ennis.
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oooh, difficult question.
I think Ellery fell in love with Ennis when Ennis took his first trip to Brokeback, and Ellery realized that he was in deep grief about Jack. He wanted a man who could feel like that, who felt he had to go up to the mountain to make peace with Jack and grieve him after sleeping with Ellery.
I think Ennis fell in love with Ellery when he found himself fantasizing about him while he was on Brokeback and he realized it was possible for him to recover from grieving Jack.
gn411:
Pastor Fred:
One of the most beautiful aspects of the love between Ennis and Ellery is the way they draw strength from each other. Each man is more fully himself because of the relationship they share. As Ennis comes out of his emotional repression, he is able to provide Ellery the safe haven for healing and growth that Ellery has given him. That is a paradigm for a love relationship to benefit all of us.
Like your point, Now the next step. Ellery is providing Ennis Love, room to grow, a safe environment.
What is Ennis providing Ellery?
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