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Aloysius J. Gleek:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on January 25, 2009, 05:41:47 pm ---...and that, imo, is a problem. Hollywood is make believe and celebrity/movie star groupies are all too often lapping up the superficial glitter of a person and never understand the substance.
Plus, charisma is both a blessing and a potential diabolical tool. Remember, some of the most horrible depots and evil women and men in history had great charisma, luring the unknowing (or more likely the unwilling to know) into their power grip.
Regarding the well circuluated "art" of Obama's image in red and blue, I think it looks more like a Chez Guevara poster or other revolutionary leader than anything Americana.
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--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on January 28, 2009, 11:38:01 am ---I agree! That makes me very uncomfortable for some reason.
I don't like the comparison. I hope it is purely unintentional.
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It could be intentional irony--in a good way (IMO, of course).
It could also be straightforward, POST irony--which is actually very Obama (again, IMO).
Look at this, published about six months before the Fairey poster; very red, white-beige and blue, anyway. Interesting:
DC Comics
Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters
cover
November 2007 issue
http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2007/2007_Monthly/2007_11.php
Intentional? Very. (Look at the star, look at the hair.)
Anyway, interesting....
Mikaela:
--- Quote from: jmmgallagher on January 28, 2009, 11:25:09 am ---
Mad Magazine
Cover
March 2009 issue
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They truly have managed to portray the bizarro-Obama! Whatever happens, I just cannot imagine him ever looking like this. He's the ultimate poster person where calm, cool, and collected is concerned. I bet that characteristic was very possibly the single most important reason for many people who voted for him.
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Concerning the other issue at hand and the possibility of the Fairey poster intentionally drawing on the Che image - that doesn't bother me the least. (And I'm not a Che idolizer, by any means). I don't see the Fairey portrait as as comparison between two persons at all, but if the similarity is intentional and not just unavoidable, the Obama image manages to re-invent, re-invigorate and re-possess a political form of expression that had grown stale, powerless, over-used and utterly diluted with the Che image. I mean, Che is everywhere! Used in so many inane contexts by people who only have the vaguest idea who Che Guevara was and did and represented.
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: jmmgallagher on January 28, 2009, 01:48:27 pm ---
It could be intentional irony--in a good way (IMO, of course).
It could also be straightforward, POST irony--which is actually very Obama (again, IMO).
Look at this, published about six months before the Fairey poster; very red, white-beige and blue, anyway. Interesting:
DC Comics
Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters
cover
November 2007 issue
http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2007/2007_Monthly/2007_11.php
Intentional? Very. (Look at the star, look at the hair.)
Anyway, interesting....
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VERY Interesting!
Wow!
Amazing what Ya learn here! :laugh:
injest:
oh great...now they are putting Uncle Sam as a revolutionary? how stupid can the public be?
::) ::) ::)
people are such sheep.
Aloysius J. Gleek:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on January 28, 2009, 03:27:30 pm ---They truly have managed to portray the bizarro-Obama! Whatever happens, I just cannot imagine him ever looking like this. He's the ultimate poster person where calm, cool, and collected is concerned. I bet that characteristic was very possibly the single most important reason for many people who voted for him.
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I agree!
--- Quote from: Mikaela on January 28, 2009, 03:27:30 pm ---I don't see the Fairey portrait as as comparison between two persons at all, but if the similarity is intentional and not just unavoidable, the Obama image manages to re-invent, re-invigorate and re-possess a political form of expression that had grown stale, powerless, over-used and utterly diluted with the Che image. I mean, Che is everywhere! Used in so many inane contexts by people who only have the vaguest idea who Che Guevara was and did and represented.
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Mikaela, could we even say that Shepard Fairey subverted the (Jim Fitzpatrick/Alberto Korda/'Guerrillero Heroico') Che poster?? ::)
I sort of like that word in this context!
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