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ifyoucantfixit:


       Using electric knife.---------  compensating for lack of masculinity.  Needs something to compensate lack of  strength.

       Lureen's bleached blond hair.----------  Trying to gain attention.  She is desperate to change what is not working.

       Peaches and Cereal.----------  An innocent start.   Someone who doesnt understand the real now, and its importance.

       Ear stroke.-----------  Learned behavior.  Trying to relay what was his feeling when he recieved that touch.

       Transparent bread bag. ---------  Ready to reveal something that has been hidden.

       Sour Expression.----------  The old way is spoiled, and the new way is not what was wanted.

       Punching the truck driver.---------   Showing to all outward appearances his masculinity.. Not a chickenshit.

       Getting beaten up. -----------  Showing a double meaning, he can take it like a man.

       Swearing at your father-in-law.----------  Showing not afraid to stand up to authority figures.

       Yelling at your x-wife. ---------  Letting her know that you are still in charge of your life.  Not a whipped man.
       

       

       
       

jstephens9:
There's JANICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D :)

Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: atz75 on November 29, 2008, 11:49:10 pm ---So, I have a question about the clear bread bag scene.  I recall conversations about the clear bread bag in this argument scene between Ennis and Alma on Thanksgiving being a "bookend" to an earlier kitchen scene where there is a loaf of bread in a paper/opaque bag.  If I recall correctly, the idea is that in the earlier scene, everyone is keeping secrets, but in this Thanksgiving scene truths are revealed.

because it's going to drive me nuts until I remember correctly.  I may even have to watch the movie!!
:o  :D
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The bread in the closed, opaque box was in the kitchen scene at the lonsesome ranch:







Between those two kitchen scenes (first: at the lonesome ranch, third: Thanksgiving), we have a second kitchen scene where the bread is still in a box, but the box is open and you can see the bread. The bread is only half hidden. It's the scene when Ennis gets Jack's first postcard (and he washes his hands in the sink):






Oh, and the ventilator is prominently seen here. "Look what the wind blew in" - a postcard from Jack :D.

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: Penthesilea on November 30, 2008, 06:22:15 am ---
The bread in the closed, opaque box was in the kitchen scene at the lonsesome ranch:







Between those two kitchen scenes (first: at the lonesome ranch, third: Thanksgiving), we have a second kitchen scene where the bread is still in a box, but the box is open and you can see the bread. The bread is only half hidden. It's the scene when Ennis gets Jack's first postcard (and he washes his hands in the sink):






Oh, and the ventilator is prominently seen here. "Look what the wind blew in" - a postcard from Jack :D.

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Thanks Chrissi!  :)  Yep, when I was looking at the screencaps I saw the bread boxes in the two earlier kitchens, but somehow I was (mis)remembering a loaf of bread in a brown bag in one of the earlier kitchens.  Thanks for the reminders about how all of the chain of bread boxes and then the clear bag fit together.
:)

And, yep, I love the vent in the kitchen.  I also love the way the vent with the hot steam kicks up outside just as Ennis pulls into the driveway leading up to the first-postcard scene.

This is giving me the urge to bump the Jack and the Wind thread.
:)

serious crayons:
A big thanks  :-* to everyone who has participated in the quiz, so far. Interestingly, I don't think anybody here gave answers that exactly matched those I had in mind. Here's what I would have said:


Electric knife = Vibrator


Lureen's blonde hair = Disappointment


Peaches and cereal = Prop snafu


Ear stroke = Learned affection


Transparent bread bag = Revelation


Sour expression = Bitterness


Punching a truck driver = Masculinity


Getting beat up = Compensating


Swearing at your father-in-law = Rebellion


Yelling at your ex-wife = Not a sinner

But again, all answers are acceptable. In fact, as I was doing mine, I can see that I might just as easily have put "swearing at your father-in-law" with "masulinity" and so on. (And to be honest, some of these probably don't quite qualify as symbols.)

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