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"Jack, I swear..." What do you think Ennis meant by that?

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Rayn:

--- Quote from: Tristann on July 23, 2006, 08:16:48 am ---

 When Ennis appeard with the shirts, Jack's mom took a paper bag and carefully placed the shirts inside. Perhaps she had put Jack's ashes in the bag. The, "Jack, I swear..." could therefore also mean that Ennis, whilst touching the postcard of Brokeback Mountain swears that he will return the ashes to the mountain as was Jack's wish.
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Yeah, I thought he meant he'd do all he could to get Jack's ashes on BBM too, but I don't think Mary Twist put his ashes in the bag.  If you watch the scene where that might happened, you can see the bag has nothing but the shirts in it when Ennis leaves.   There could be a way to get the ashes later, how, I don't know, but Mrs Twist, nice as she is, is too scared of her husband to try anything like putting the ashes in the bag in front of him.  The look on her face when she invited Ennis to come back and see them again is clearly one of fear. 

Rayn

nakymaton:
Andrew -- wow. Wonderful post. It helps put the power of the silences and things that aren't said into a context that helps me understand a little about why they move me so much.


--- Quote from: Andrew on July 23, 2006, 02:31:18 pm ---Somehow, breaking out all these elements seems to demean the one powerful effect, like picking off one by one the individual members of the emotional army who are jabbing at me before and behind.

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In a way, yes. But... well, for me, the emotional army is so overwhelming if I take them on all at once all the time. I start to shut down and crawl into a little corner of myself. (In fact, I tended to do that every time I saw the movie for the two months it was in theaters... I didn't get into public internet discussions in part, I think, because it was just too overwhelming at the time.) Breaking down the elements that contribute to the emotional power is important for me, I think, because otherwise I simply can't respond to whatever is moving me so much.

So, anyway, thank you. :)

Andrew:
Thank you for telling me you appreciated my effort, Amanda and nakymaton (Mel?)  You know, you can spend the better part of a day thinking about, researching and rewriting a single post.  And putting all the books you dug through back on the shelves.  So it's always nice to know that somebody had the time to ponder it and measure it against their own experience.  Occasionally the random nature of electronic communication comes to the fore, and an elaborate post rolls off because all the individuals it might fit are elsewhere.  And you can't help feeling a little sad because the Internet magic hasn't worked this time.

Taking one converse of this - I'll try to make sure I let people know a little more often when I feel enriched by what they wrote.   Especially when the flower seems to be in danger of being 'born to blush unseen, and waste its sweetness on the desert air'!

Rayn:
I haven't been around the site for a good while.  I went on vacation to Canada though and the more I saw of it the more I wanted to see.  I swear, Alberta is a mountain-lovers paradise and I will go back to see more of it. I love the mountains, I may even move there. 

It's good to see that people are still responding to this thread.   So many people have had great things to say and discuss.  And yes, thanks for the wonderful post Andrew!  Great work!

Rayn

Rayn:
Just checking in....  Been away a while, but am back.  Maybe some new members will respond if I get this thread to the front page?   Worth a try to keep it going, I guess.

Rayn

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