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"Jack, I swear..." What do you think Ennis meant by that?
Rayn:
Artiste,
I have thought too that Ennis could mean, "Jack, I swear I'll live a different, more open life now because of you." And there is even an indication of this when Ennis makes a decision to be at his daughter's wedding instead of isolating like he often does to protect himself from life's pain and trouble.
I'm one who wants to believe Ennis gets better, lives more openly, moves to Denver or some other larger western city, meets someone and finds a close friendship with another person. But I do think it would take him time to get used to Jack's not being there for him. I don't think he could ever let the memory of Jack go, but I do think he could move on and live a better life, in time. But all this is just a wish made of a fantasy, not just for Ennis, but for everyone.
Life goes on with or without us, huh?
Rayn
moremojo:
--- Quote from: Artiste on April 10, 2007, 09:51:13 pm ---Jack I swear, said by Ennis, is powerful in unknown ways!! ??
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Artiste, you've honed in on an essential element of this key scene. The line would lose a considerable amount of its power were it to explicitly include any or all of the speculations that others like we Brokies have added to it. The line is haunting in part because it is open-ended...allowing us to finish the story in our own lives and hearts as Ms. Proulx intended.
Artiste:
Thanks Ryan!
I do like your comment. And find that that could be so.
Last night in bed, an idea about that came to me, but I can not remember it now.
Maybe, it will come back... concerning Jack' I swear, as said by Ennis.
Maybe you know, Ryan, that I have lived that situation of Ennis, because I have lost my partner/lover to, I figure, a killer of gays. And nearly everyday I think about my pal and still consider him to be alive in some ways as in my mind and heart!! It is hard I state, and I feel that he communicates with me... somehow; even think, that we (mother and I) had (real) sign of his communications many days after his death!! Anyway, life does go on as you say... and even if my buddy was Wayne (like he was Jack), he and I had difficulties like in the BBM movie. It remains that why we live and why we do past away, is a question even in Annie's story!! ??
As you say: Life goes on with or without us, huh?
That is like the BBM movie, I guess??
May I note that some men, only loves another man, and will not find another!! I have heard of some men never seeking to find another lover (woman or man) after being refused once, or after the death of the other person.
That I wonder why? Do you?
Awaiting your news,
hugs!!
Artiste:
Thanks moremojo!
You say this:
Artiste, you've honed in on an essential element of this key scene. The line would lose a considerable amount of its power were it to explicitly include any or all of the speculations that others like we Brokies have added to it. The line is haunting in part because it is open-ended...allowing us to finish the story in our own lives and hearts as Ms. Proulx intended.
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May I say that I agree with you. And that it is great that we can think in many ways about it.
And I still find ways of thought never known yet! That is great!
Annie does a wonderful thing, story!! Did she write those words in her story: Jack, I swear...??
Hugs!
Rayn:
--- Quote from: Artiste on April 11, 2007, 11:15:03 am ---May I note that some men, only loves another man, and will not find another!! I have heard of some men never seeking to find another lover (woman or man) after being refused once, or after the death of the other person.
That I wonder why? Do you?
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I guess some people feel they cannot love again once they have loved "a forever love". I respect that, but I am not like that. I think most people need love, to give it and to receive it while we live and so, I have been lucky enough to have loved more than once, have had three real loves and I'm open to meeting someone else, but there hasn't been anyone in a long time who I've fallen for. I guess when you've had "the best" you get picky about the rest! LOL
But honestly, each man and woman is different and we all have our own ways of loving. We are all unique whether with someone as a couple or single
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