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"Jack, I swear..." What do you think Ennis meant by that?
loneleeb3:
Ryan,
I really liked that.
It got the tears going again but it really captures what Ennis must have felt.
I only saw the movie at the end of april so I am still in the early stages of my BBM mania! LOL
Rayn:
--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on June 12, 2007, 05:44:21 pm ---Ryan,
I really liked that.
It got the tears going again but it really captures what Ennis must have felt.
I only saw the movie at the end of april so I am still in the early stages of my BBM mania! LOL
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Anyone in an English speaking country who doesn't at least feel some sadness or have tears over Ennis and Jack, must be watching the moive in Chinese!
New Brokies are a sign that the movie continues, as we all know it will, to impact people year after year.
Welcome Fellow Brokie!
Rayn
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: Rayn on June 12, 2007, 07:07:48 pm ---
Anyone in an English speaking country who doesn't at least feel some sadness or have tears over Ennis and Jack, must be watching the moive in Chinese!
New Brokies are a sign that the movie continues, as we all know it will, to impact people year after year.
Welcome Fellow Brokie!
Rayn
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That is true!
I don't know how anyone can't be touched by the movie on some deep level.
Sorry for being Dyslexic! Rayn ::)
RodneyFL:
Well, we all know that when Ennis speaks, and it is not all that often, he speaks volumes in a few words, both in the short story and in the film. His uttering "Jack, I swear. . ." while looking at the shirts and card hanging there (film) in the closet and (ss) on the wall is so similar to other utterances from Ennis that are incomplete. Here is where both the visual image and the textual imagery may combine to help us in this crucial moment at the end of film and story. We see in the film and read in the text the presence of stinging tears when he looks at the shirts on the hangar. We see that he makes a few adjustments (snaps and straightens), mutters, "Jack, I swear...." and then straightens the post card which was crooked. He couldn't stand it crooked, so he fixed it. I firmly believe that through this partial vow he uttered, he swore to Jack that he was going to fix his life. We already had an inkling that Ennis' firm resolve was beginning to cave at the confrontation scene (film) when he tearfully exclaimed, "Honestly Jack I can't stand this anymore." This is where we have a major departure from short story to film, the very conclusion of the film to me gives me hope that Ennis is vowing to make his love for Jack count for something, something that he has yet to figure out. I don't quite feel that hope at the end of the short story.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: RodneyFL on June 14, 2007, 01:13:01 pm ---We already had an inkling that Ennis' firm resolve was beginning to cave at the confrontation scene (film) when he tearfully exclaimed, "Honestly Jack I can't stand this anymore." This is where we have a major departure from short story to film, the very conclusion of the film to me gives me hope that Ennis is vowing to make his love for Jack count for something, something that he has yet to figure out. I don't quite feel that hope at the end of the short story.
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Couldn't agree more. Thanks for bringing up Ennis' "Jack, I can't stand this anymore" at the end of the lake side argument. I feel that it is *so* important, but somehow often gets overlooked.
This confession by Ennis, together with the pie scene in the diner and some other things, makes me absolutely sure that things would have turned for the better, had Jack lived.
But after more than a year gone by, I still haven't figured out if this makes the story even sadder or less sad...
For me personally, I think less sad.
Sorry for digessing here.
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