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Life and this movie are messy
optom3:
--- Quote from: BlissC on April 12, 2008, 03:31:44 pm ---I've thought very much the same things myself Fiona. There's just something that niggles me about Aguirre, and as Mouk pointed out I noticed recently that line in Story to Screenplay too. Mouk makes some very valid points. It almost seems that both Aguirre and the Basque were complicit in the whole situation.
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Thank goodness it is not just me.Niggle is a very good way to describe it.I just always had a funny feeling that I was missing something,but could not put my finger on it. It still bothers me and I am not sure why.Curious and disconcerting.
BlissC:
--- Quote from: optom3 on April 12, 2008, 04:37:36 pm ---Curious and disconcerting.
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Spot on. "Disconcerting" - yup, that's the feeling.
Front-Ranger:
About Aguirre, I was noticing in the story how he has "wavy hair...parted down the middle" just like the Red Sea (only his is the color of cigarette ash). Also, in his trailer are venetian blinds (separating the window into light and dark) which are hanging askew so that they "admit a triangle of white light." In other words, a mountain-shaped light. And his hand gestures as he gives instructions to the two boys, moves in the light with a chopping motion, as if he's cutting the mountain in two. He decrees that Ennis, the camp tender, should stay in the light and tend the fire, while Jack is on the QT, staying with the sheep and having no fire, in the dark.
About the Basque, he is bandy-legged and he also instructs Ennis in how to pack the mules, lashing them up: "ring-lashed with double diamonds." This is the wedding ceremony is it not? There are rings, bands, AND diamonds. Is the Basque the ring bearer? And then the Basque leaves him with a warning, not to eat from the fruit of the tree of Life, er, soup, because "them boxes a soup are real bad to pack." Not hard to pack, BAD to pack. In other words, they are a kind of Pandora's box, them boxes a soup.
BlissC:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2008, 10:20:15 pm ---About Aguirre, I was noticing in the story how he has "wavy hair...parted down the middle" just like the Red Sea (only his is the color of cigarette ash). Also, in his trailer are venetian blinds (separating the window into light and dark) which are hanging askew so that they "admit a triangle of white light." In other words, a mountain-shaped light.
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Yep, there's that God/religious thing again, and the triangular symbolism again. Actually it's just struck me that the triangle theme continues through the rest of the story as well, but not just in the visual cues....Ennis - Jack - Alma: triangle....Ennis - Jack - Lureen: triangle....Ennis - Jack - Randall...
--- Quote ---About the Basque, he is bandy-legged and he also instructs Ennis in how to pack the mules, lashing them up: "ring-lashed with double diamonds." This is the wedding ceremony is it not? There are rings AND diamonds. Is the Basque the ring bearer? And then the Basque leaves him with a warning, not to eat from the fruit of the tree of Life, er, soup, because "them boxes a soup are real bad to pack." Not hard to pack, BAD to pack. In other words, they are a kind of Pandora's box, them boxes a soup.
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So true agin - back to the wedding ceremony and the whole garden of Eden idea - and all just in a few lines in the story! The whole story amazes me, because just when you think you've spotted everything, something crops up that's glaringly obvious when you look at it again.
That Pandora's box analogy's a good one as well, because once you've opened Pandora's box, you can't get it back inside. Thinking back to the story of Pandora's box though, dimly remembered from my school days, I seem to remember too though that there was one thing that Pandora was quick enough to close it again to keep inside - Hope. In the Pandora's box there's Jack's hopes and dreams for the sweet life.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2008, 10:20:15 pm --- And then the Basque leaves him with a warning, not to eat from the fruit of the tree of Life, er, soup, because "them boxes a soup are real bad to pack." Not hard to pack, BAD to pack. In other words, they are a kind of Pandora's box, them boxes a soup.
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Ooohh, good point! And Ennis orders them anyway ... :-X
It's interesting how much their food choices revolve around what's against the rules (soup, sheep, elk) and what's approved and safe, but boring (beans).
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