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In the New Yorker...
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2021, 11:22:15 am ---If you're referring to the Lesh article in particular, If I remember correctly from the article how he regards and treats women, I don't think a woman writer could have done the article.
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A woman writer probably wouldn't want to, but sexist men often treat women writers with less sexism than you might think. Especially when they're offering an attention junkie a chance to be in a respected national magazine.
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2021, 11:24:06 am ---He certainly seems like somebody who has a very high opinion of himself (not necessarily warranted, I'd say, considering the situation he got himself into).
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--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2021, 01:30:37 pm ---Where in the movie was he portrayed as a sympathetic character? I can't recall a spot. Maybe when he was further along in his ordeal and he was repenting all his sins.
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Maybe I'm just forgetting parts of the movie. (It was 2010.) But by sympathetic, I don't mean they show him volunteering in a soup kitchen, he's just the protagonist and protagonists are usually automatically granted a certain degree of sympathy unless they're overtly bad in some way (i.e. American Psycho). I recall him as just a regular outdoorsy guy. Probably too risk-taking and certainly careless not to tell anybody where he was going, but I don't remember him being a jerk. I don't even remember him repenting all his sins! But I will give him props for slicing off his own arm.
Front-Ranger:
That part was covered by his failed relationship with his girlfriend, the French lady.
Speaking of jerks, I've been watching the Ken Burns special "Hemingway" and am about to get into the later years. Don't know if I'm up for it.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2021, 11:46:57 am ---That part was covered by his failed relationship with his girlfriend, the French lady.
Speaking of jerks, I've been watching the Ken Burns special "Hemingway" and am about to get into the later years. Don't know if I'm up for it.
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I read a review that portrayed Hemingway as a writer as kind of outdated and inconsequential at this point. Since that's pretty much the way I felt about him in college lit classes, I haven't jumped on the Ken Burns' production. I wish he'd done F. Scott Fitzgerald instead.
https://slate.com/culture/2021/04/hemingway-documentary-ken-burns-influence-abuse-masculinity.html
Or maybe a woman, for a change. His subjects are usually either specific men or activities dominated by men. There were women involved in the Civil War, but more on the sidelines, and of course there are women jazz and country musicians but I'm not sure how central they were in his renditions. I can't remember the jazz one very well and didn't finish the country music one.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 13, 2021, 04:00:55 pm ---I read a review that portrayed Hemingway as a writer as kind of outdated and inconsequential at this point. Since that's pretty much the way I felt about him in college lit classes, I haven't jumped on the Ken Burns' production. I wish he'd done F. Scott Fitzgerald instead.
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I wouldn't have been any more interested in him than I am in Hemingway--which is not at all. I remember I read The Great Gatsby once, and I couldn't tell you a thing about it.
--- Quote ---Or maybe a woman, for a change. His subjects are usually either specific men or activities dominated by men. There were women involved in the Civil War, but more on the sidelines, and of course there are women jazz and country musicians but I'm not sure how central they were in his renditions. I can't remember the jazz one very well and didn't finish the country music one.
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Maybe those women in the Civil War are on the sidelines because male historians put them there. I did watch the whole country music documentary, and my memory is that women have been pretty important. The Carters were practically a dynasty--three generations of women in country music. (Well, maybe that third generation only partly qualifies as part of a dynasty, but still.)
Jeff Wrangler:
If you didn't read "On the Couch: Common Thread" in the Talk of the Town in the April 5 issue, I recommend it. I found it quite entertaining.
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