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TOTW 01/09: Jack meeting Alma - symbolism and questions (story-related)
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: buffymon on January 29, 2009, 06:09:06 am ---I agree. In the movie there´s never any doubt that Ennis doesn´t know, in my mind.
I find it more vague in the ss though.
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Yup, agreed with Monika and Elle as far as movie-Ennis is concerned.
I was asking specifically about story-Ennis, guess I didn't make myself very clear. I edited the question in the OP accordingly.
Another point that might back my theory that story-Ennis knew (or at least was very aware of the possibility) about Alma seeing the kiss is the fact that storyEnnis is less paranoid than movieEnnis, as we've stated often before.
Monika:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 29, 2009, 07:21:11 am ---Yup, agreed with Monika and Elle as far as movie-Ennis is concerned.
I was asking specifically about story-Ennis, guess I didn't make myself very clear. I edited the question in the OP accordingly.
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I got it, but just got a bit carried away as always :)
Monika:
Thinking of the scene from Alma´s perspective...I think that the Ennis she saw kissing Jack was a man she hardly recognised; passionate, reckless, unrestrained.
I don´t think she ever got to see that part of Ennis and what she saw that day was a glimpse of something totaly unfamiliar to her.
In another thread we discussed Jack being the wind or the sun, and Ennis the earth. I wonder where Alma fits into all of that. Maybe she is the moon. Dependable, pale bleak and while the sun scorches the moon soothes. And when the sun is up, we don't see the moon and vice versa.
HerrKaiser:
--- Quote from: buffymon on January 29, 2009, 03:16:43 pm ---Thinking of the scene from Alma´s perspective...I think that the Ennis she saw kissing Jack was a man she hardly recognised; passionate, reckless, unrestrained.
I don´t think she ever got to see that part of Ennis and what she saw that day was a glimpse of something totaly unfamiliar to her.
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Interesting, but I think Alma had seen Ennis like that before. The tobaggan slide romping, the sex scene after he puts the girls to bed, for example. What I believe Alma saw was the man she used to know...with his vitality being directed to someone other than herself. That was her horror and shock and disappointment.
Monika:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on January 29, 2009, 03:31:56 pm ---Interesting, but I think Alma had seen Ennis like that before. The tobaggan slide romping, the sex scene after he puts the girls to bed, for example. What I believe Alma saw was the man she used to know...with his vitality being directed to someone other than herself. That was her horror and shock and disappointment.
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I just can´t imagining Ennis shoving Alma up against the wall like he did with Jack.
Or perhaps I just don´t want to ;D
It´s always interesting to hear how we all interpret the story so differently. Love these discussions
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