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"Sometimes I miss......
Mikaela:
--- Quote ---From Meryl
There's that maddening pause right after "Tell you what" before he says "sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it." Was he really trying to say "It's the ranch foreman I've been seeing, and not his wife"?
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Yes, I definitely think so. He's in the tentative first stages of possible quitting..... He thinks he needs to be more honest to see where that may get them. But ultimately, he can't bring himself to hurt Ennis like that. He can't manage to say those words. So instead of saying that he's seeing the Ranch foreman, he tells Ennis the *reason* why he's seeing the ranch foreman. It hurts the heart to watch it.
And poor Ennis can't manage to find a word to say in response; - his bad conscience over not being able to make August and not having told Jack yet, making him even more mute faced with Jack's bared emotions.
The glint of the firelight in Ennis's eyes in that scene is nearly eerie - tiny bright points of light in the darkness - it's as if Ennis's inner light has lit up now that he's sitting next to Jack. :'(
From early on in my Brokeback "obsession" I've found that this scene, the one that ends with "sometimes I miss you so much..." is the most painful one of them all for me to watch. Knowing how each truly feels for the other, knowing all that goes unsaid between them there, knowing what lies ahead...... that scene just kills me. Sometimes I skip past it because it's so painful to watch.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on July 17, 2006, 02:07:03 pm ---
And poor Ennis can't manage to find a word to say in response; - his bad conscience over not being able to make August and not having told Jack yet, making him even more mute faced with Jack's bared emotions.
The glint of the firelight in Ennis's eyes in that scene is nearly eerie - tiny bright points of light in the darkness - it's as if Ennis's inner light has lit up now that he's sitting next to Jack.
From early on in my Brokeback "obsession" I've found that this scene, the one that ends with "sometimes I miss you so much..." is the most painful one of them all for me to watch. Knowing how each truly feels for the other, knowing all that goes unsaid between them there, knowing what lies ahead...... that scene just kills me. Sometimes I skip past it because it's so painful to watch.
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This is one of my favorites, because it one of the many ways Jacks tells Ennis he loves him.
And you lnow from the next scene, the tent, Ennis tenderly responded.
Daphne7661:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on July 17, 2006, 02:07:03 pm ---Yes, I definitely think so. He's in the tentative first stages of possible quitting..... He thinks he needs to be more honest to see where that may get them. But ultimately, he can't bring himself to hurt Ennis like that. He can't manage to say those words. So instead of saying that he's seeing the Ranch foreman, he tells Ennis the *reason* why he's seeing the ranch foreman. It hurts the heart to watch it.
And poor Ennis can't manage to find a word to say in response; - his bad conscience over not being able to make August and not having told Jack yet, making him even more mute faced with Jack's bared emotions.
The glint of the firelight in Ennis's eyes in that scene is nearly eerie - tiny bright points of light in the darkness - it's as if Ennis's inner light has lit up now that he's sitting next to Jack. :'(
From early on in my Brokeback "obsession" I've found that this scene, the one that ends with "sometimes I miss you so much..." is the most painful one of them all for me to watch. Knowing how each truly feels for the other, knowing all that goes unsaid between them there, knowing what lies ahead...... that scene just kills me. Sometimes I skip past it because it's so painful to watch.
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Ohhh, my heart is just breaking... I don't think I could love Jack and Ennis anymore and then I read other's posts and just come unglued. How can this positively magnificent movie hurt so damn much...
:'( :'(
Luvlylittlewing:
No way was jack actually having an affair with a Rancher's wife. Actually, I'm in the camp (a very small minority) who does not believe Jack had an affair with either laShawn or Randall! Jack mentioned having an affair with a woman only after Ennis mentioned putting the blocks to Cassie. In fact, I'm sure Jack asked his lover about finding someone to marry as a means to see who was in Ennis' life at the time - whether Jack had any competition. When Ennis admitted an affair with cassie, I don't think Jack liked that very much. He countered with the fiction about the rancher's wife as a sort of tit-for-tat, IMO, a one-upmanship. Of course, I could be wrong.
If jack were indeed having an affair with Randall, why mention it to Ennis? Jack was smart enough to know that Ennis would go ballistic, that Ennis would knock him out if he confessed to being with another man! Ennis would have also been destroyed to learn of Jack's affair, if it actually happened, and I'm sure jack wouldn't want Ennis hurt. Just my humble POV.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: littlewing1957 on July 17, 2006, 09:11:58 pm ---No way was jack actually having an affair with a Rancher's wife. Actually, I'm in the camp (a very small minority) who does not believe Jack had an affair with either laShawn or Randall! Jack mentioned having an affair with a woman only after Ennis mentioned putting the blocks to Cassie. In fact, I'm sure Jack asked his lover about finding someone to marry as a means to see who was in Ennis' life at the time - whether Jack had any competition. When Ennis admitted an affair with cassie, I don't think Jack liked that very much. He countered with the fiction about the rancher's wife as a sort of tit-for-tat, IMO, a one-upmanship. Of course, I could be wrong.
If jack were indeed having an affair with Randall, why mention it to Ennis? Jack was smart enough to know that Ennis would go ballistic, that Ennis would knock him out if he confessed to being with another man! Ennis would have also been destroyed to learn of Jack's affair, if it actually happened, and I'm sure jack wouldn't want Ennis hurt. Just my humble POV.
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Of course since were talking fiction we can all be right. But I think I like your senaro best, that Jack was being faithful to Lureen (in terms of other women) as well as Ennis. I realize there was Mexico, but we only have evidence he was only there once and judging by the hollow look on Jack's face it just made him miss Ennis that much more.
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