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And this is who runs our country...
dannyboy:
thanks barb
the george bush thing was a classic! 8)
Giancarlo:
Well what this country needs is bigger change. I'm a libertarian so naturally I'm at odds with both parties. I view both the democrats and republicans are horribly corrupt and incredibly foolish. There needs to be some newer faces. Of course when I voice these views especially at my campus I get into a lot of trouble. I got into a pretty heated discussion in one class I was with in... with both democrats and republicans in the room. I constantly blasted the democrat's inability to set any alternative planning and the republicans with their scandals... believe me, I criticized them quite equally. I'm really disgusted with both parties. In California, the democrats have been awful. That's why I actually did volunteer for Arnold Schwarzenegger's re-election campaign. Don't get mad at me even if he is a republican... the guy did sign in an equal insurance law for gays and lesbians a few years back (more then Gray Davis ever did). I'm not pleased with his decision to veto that one bill, but overall, I am pleased with him as a governor... and the most important thing is he is not a career politican.
As far as Hurricane Katrina is concerned, there was complacency on every level of government. The state of Louisania happens to be one of the most corrupt in the entire country. But beyond that... I really must getting to bed before my cyncism pisses anyone off. I really don't have confidence in the right or left. I think people have to start thinking and come back to the center.
Libertarianism is a mixture of policies. Specifically open market minimal government policies, and open social policy (including pro-gay marriage). That puts me at odds with both parties.
Amber:
Actually, I would agree with you on Schwarzenegger. I think for all of the hassling he's had to deal with, he's actually done a decent job. I'm not from California and I'm not even a Republican. I'm just impressed that he's cut across the "political lines" refused to put up with (some) of the status quo and has had the courage to make decisions based on what is best for the people, not for the party.
Kudos to him for that!
Aussie Chris:
--- Quote from: Giancarlo on July 21, 2006, 07:36:15 am ---Libertarianism is a mixture of policies. Specifically open market minimal government policies, and open social policy (including pro-gay marriage). That puts me at odds with both parties.
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Hey there Giancarlo. Can you help me out with this libertarian biz? Actually when I started reading your post I misread it as librarian and I thought, hey, so librarians are political over there. But why not, librarians are well read after all! Anyway, I understand what you've said here but I don't understand the practical application. Is it a form of idealism where it is assumed that everyone is nice to each other, and no one takes advantage of anyone else?
I'm not trying to be a smart-arse here, I'm actually very interested. Growing up as a child I was enamoured by American culture and Americans in general. I may be an insufferable romantic, but I like being romantic. One of the greatest shocks of my life was when I travelled to the U.S. in 1993 and did the whole west cost thing, and while standing in a line at Disneyland a young man overhearing my accent asked me why I would want to come "here", and in his tone it was clear he meant "loser country".
I'm not here to lend any support to that kind of sentiment. I don't agree with it, and as far as I'm concerned it worse than defeatist, it's accepting and fatalist. I'd like to hear how America is changing. I know it is, I can see it, but more importantly I can feel it. I love that questions are being asked, and that the U.S. is growing up, finally. Sorry if that is a patronising thing to say, don't worry, we're not so far removed from you in Australia that I could take the high-moral ground or anything.
The thing that I hate more than anything is not that our leaders tell us lies, but that we let them.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Aussie Chris on July 22, 2006, 09:40:26 am ---One of the greatest shocks of my life was when I travelled to the U.S. in 1993 and did the whole west cost thing, and while standing in a line at Disneyland a young man overhearing my accent asked me why I would want to come "here", and in his tone it was clear he meant "loser country".
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Hiya Aussie,
You know, I say that to foreign tourists when I meet them here in the U.S.
I guess I ask because aside from a few touristy things and a whole lot of gorgeous open country and parks, there isn't a whole lot to see here in the U.S. We'd wonder why anyone from Europe/Asia etc., places with thousands of years of history, places to go, things to see would want to come to the U.S. where aside from a few ancient native sites almost everything human-made is less than 300 years old. A friend of mine is Zimbabwean (sp?), who moved to and studied law in South Africa and now lives in London longs to come to the U.S. and the southwest. I also questioned him on why and he replied to see the 'great openness of the country'. And this guy was born and raised in Africa. [shrugs] Grass is always greener I suppose.
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