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Why is the "dozy embrace" in the film?
dly64:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on August 01, 2006, 08:22:15 pm ---And I think it's a bit of a warning sign that, when Alma is being all domestic and everything, she's washing the shirt that Ennis was wearing when he lost his virginity. And she doesn't have a clue.
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Kick, Mel!! I never even thought of that!! WHOA! Love it!
JT:
--- Quote from: atz75 on August 01, 2006, 08:16:03 pm ---Yeah, that's really interesting that they're the same two shirts from the very beginning of the movie. I had noticed that they were Jack's shirt from TS1 and Ennis's shirt from TS2. So, here's a question (or two or three). Does this maybe suggest that the interaction between the boys outside Aguirre's trailer was "love at first sight"... and these shirts are meant to be visual/ prop clues about this? Or, maybe are we supposed to think that Jack fell in love with Ennis during TS1 (since he's wearing the magic shirt here) and Ennis fell in love during TS2 (since similarly, he's wearing his magic shirt here)? The first option is not really compatible with options two and three.
On the topic of shirts... I've always wondered about Alma when she's hanging the laudry on the line in the really strong wind (Jack!!!) and sees Ennis driving down the road... She's holding onto the shirt that Ennis wore during TS1. What are we supposed to make of that?
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I think for Jack, it's love at first sight, but Ennis gradually falls in love Jack up on BBM.
2robots4u:
JT uses OMT as in "Ennis protecting the shirts from OMT".
jpwagonner says "Jack was wearing his FNIT and Ennis SNIT".
Please don't think me obtuse, but what does OMT, FNIT, and SNIT mean?
I need to know so I can understand what these shirts are all about ;D ;D
Thanks..Doug
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: [email protected] on August 04, 2006, 06:21:32 pm ---JT uses OMT as in "Ennis protecting the shirts from OMT".
jpwagonner says "Jack was wearing his FNIT and Ennis SNIT".
Please don't think me obtuse, but what does OMT, FNIT, and SNIT mean?
I need to know so I can understand what these shirts are all about ;D ;D
Thanks..Doug
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Doug, OMT is Old Man Twist. FNIT and SNIT are First and Second Nights in Tent (also known as TS1 and TS2, for Tent Scenes 1 and 2).
Here's a link to a glossary that Goadra started not long ago to keep track of useful BBM terms.
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=3362.msg60845#msg60845
Brown Eyes:
Hey there Friends,
I'm like Diane, I like to believe it was love at first sight (even if it was almost subconscious... or completely inarticulate for Ennis at first). I think those shirts are meant to be such huge symbols in the film that (along with the extremely long amount of time we spend watching the boys silently interact during the opening) they must mean something even at this early stage. I think the layering issue is really interesting. (Katherine, I know this is a topic you're fond of... Didn't you once suggest that the fewer the layers of clothing the more connected the boys feel to one another, or the more emotionally open a character is being at a given time?) In this discussion, it really does seem important to note how many layers poor, clueless Alma is wearing in contrast to Jack on the mountain. But, layering also seems important in the opening interaction between Ennis and Jack. Jack already has one layer less of clothing on... His blue shirt is his outer layer and Ennis has his jacket on over his magic shirt. This trend has been noted elsewhere... that Jack is usually positioned one step ahead of Ennis in many regards (literally... he's in the front during the herding, he leads Ennis to the bar, he makes the first move, etc.) and this often corresponds to his state of dress and/ or undress in comparison to Ennis. It never occured to me, until just now, to take note of this trend during these very beginning moments of the film.
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