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Did Cohen's Bruno get NC-17 because he's gay?

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injest:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on April 03, 2009, 11:52:58 pm ---After sitting through Mulholland Drive, Basic Instinct, Nine 1/2 Weeks etc., ad nauseum, and watching scenes such as a 40 foot tall Naomi Watts on the big screen masturbating, I daresay Cohen could hardly be much worse.  And none of those movies were NC-17.

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really? so you think there is no such thing anymore as a NC17 movie? there is nothing that would rate that kind of rating?

I don't think it is impossible that there is a movie with a gay theme that is a true NC17...just as there have been straight movies that get a NC17.

whether this one deserves it is something we can't tell until it is released.

injest:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on April 03, 2009, 11:52:58 pm ---After sitting through Mulholland Drive, Basic Instinct, Nine 1/2 Weeks etc., ad nauseum, and watching scenes such as a 40 foot tall Naomi Watts on the big screen masturbating, I daresay Cohen could hardly be much worse.  And none of those movies were NC-17.

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huh? was it just a big ol theatre or was she playing a giant?

milomorris:
To answer the original question posed in this thread, I say, "no." Its not because the character is gay, its because the film is explicit and crude.

Assuming that the rating is due to the character's homosexuality is the same thing as the "its 'cuz I'm black" argument. 

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: injest on April 04, 2009, 12:05:12 am ---really? so you think there is no such thing anymore as a NC17 movie? there is nothing that would rate that kind of rating?
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No, I'm saying that those movies were not NC-17 but were extremely explicit, but they were about straight couples.  Cohen's movie would have to go beyond the explicitness of those movies to deserve an NC-17.  And I just doubt that he will.


--- Quote ---I don't think it is impossible that there is a movie with a gay theme that is a true NC17...just as there have been straight movies that get a NC17.
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Of course there are.   


--- Quote ---huh? was it just a big ol theatre or was she playing a giant?
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Movie screens are generally 40-70 feet tall.  I was merely saying that I didn't particularly care to see Naomi Watts masturbating but there she was - 40 feet tall on the screen doing just that.

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: milomorris on April 04, 2009, 12:14:54 am ---To answer the original question posed in this thread, I say, "no." Its not because the character is gay, its because the film is explicit and crude.

Assuming that the rating is due to the character's homosexuality is the same thing as the "its 'cuz I'm black" argument. 

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At the current moment, the movie I love you, Phillip Morris is having a lot of trouble finding an American distributor.  The directors are busily cutting the gay sex scenes.  In the meantime, the movie already has distributors in European countries - uncut.

Do you think the directors are having problems because of the sex or because it's gay sex?

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