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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
louisev:
can you please bring your loud condemnations of femininity and effeminacy BACK to your blog? That has nothing to do with this topic about gay marriage and the Miss USA pageant at ALL.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: louisev on April 30, 2009, 05:43:42 pm ---can you please bring your loud condemnations of femininity and effeminacy BACK to your blog? That has nothing to do with this topic about gay marriage and the Miss USA pageant at ALL.
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1. I didn't bring up effeminacy, oilgun did. So don't blame me for taking this thread off topic.
2. I have NEVER condemned femininity. Stop putting words in my mouth.
3. I can and will discuss my POV on effeminacy wherever the subject presents itself. It is not a topic to be discussed on Modern Manhood only.
Rx
louisev:
Your "POV on effeminacy" is derailing this thread. We've had several very long and torturous debates about it and that isn't the subject of this tread. Everybody who has been here more than a week has gotten a full exposure to it already, please have some consideration for those who don't want to read it again in unrelated threads for the umpteenth time.
injest:
--- Quote from: louisev on April 30, 2009, 05:43:42 pm ---can you please bring your loud condemnations of femininity and effeminacy BACK to your blog? That has nothing to do with this topic about gay marriage and the Miss USA pageant at ALL.
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he is responding to an ongoing conversation. that is very much in line with Bettermost policy as I understand it. I can call up a half dozen examples in no time if you would like?
injest:
--- Quote from: milomorris on April 30, 2009, 01:19:23 pm ---But we know that in the real world there are heterosexual men who exhibit effeminacy. Effeminacy and homosexuality are not synonymous unless we're willing to accept that the stereotype is always true. Moreover, my experience has been that people who are truly not homophobic are comfortable with a masculine homosexual male, whereas an effeminate guy illicits a "cringe" factor.
I also have to say that women who are too masculine do lose some respect and cause some psychological friction among others. Just not nearly as much as effeminate men.
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I agree. Men love a tomboy...as long as she isn't TOO much of a tomboy. Women are expected to maintain a certain level of femininity or they face harassment too.
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