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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
oilgun:
--- Quote from: injest on April 30, 2009, 11:11:36 pm --- :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
woo boy...its always something isn't it? there aren't enough 'victim' groups already?
how about 'ruralphobe'?? for those that hate rural people...'christianphobe' for those that hate Christians...heck we could tack "Phobe" on anything and call it a new victim group..
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Anyway, it's not surprising that the abuse that effeminate men have to live with would be trivialised and a source of amusement, it's just disappointing to see it on this site.
Oh, and it's not Ruralphobe it's Hickaphobe, lol!
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on May 01, 2009, 06:59:12 am ---actually, Sue, I blame Perez and his supporters. If he had not thrown his hysterical rant and made her a sympathetic character, she would be a footnote, a joke (as was the last beauty show contestant that flubbed a question)
He handed (as I knew he was) the anti gay crowd a ready made poster girl. A beautiful young Christian woman who was true to her beliefs, attacked and vilified by the PC police.
Did you really NOT see this coming? seriously??
Perez made her with his self righteous, self indulgent rantings....now the REST of the gay community have to deal with the consequences.
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Perhaps, but it could also be seen as "blaming the victim". Miss CA is not the victim here. Perez and other gay people are. Perez got really really mad about her answer and - being who and what he is - when asked about it - after the contest - was also "honest" in his opinion of her.
And now the person who railed against bigots who want to take away his civil rights is being vilified and the other - the pretty bigot - is made a martyr and/or hero of her bigoted cause.
Miss CA has had her 5 minutes. She will probably have another 15 minutes of fame. But she will fade. And deservedly so.
delalluvia:
It is not surprising she would be used as a front/spokesperson for anti-gay hate groups. She is pretty and telegenic and uses polite and unoffensive language (to many) and so she can be used as a tool to try and con people. The comment in the article about how friendly she is to gay people reminds me of white people in the 50's and 60's who where also good law abiding church going folk who would say they had no problem with the "Negro's", and could and would be perfectly nice and civil to the black people in their communities, so long as they didn't get "uppity" and demand their full and equal rights. People like Miss. CA. are like that. They're fine with Gay people, so long as they know their place and are content to ride in the back of the bus.
Exactly. I keep waiting for her to come out and say "But some of my best friends are gay!" ::)
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 01, 2009, 08:14:46 am ---Perhaps, but it could also be seen as "blaming the victim". Miss CA is not the victim here. Perez and other gay people are. Perez got really really mad about her answer and - being who and what he is - when asked about it - after the contest - was also "honest" in his opinion of her.
And now the person who railed against bigots who want to take away his civil rights is being vilified and the other - the pretty bigot - is made a martyr and/or hero of her bigoted cause.
Miss CA has had her 5 minutes. She will probably have another 15 minutes of fame. But she will fade. And deservedly so.
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well I doubt that...cause it seems people never learn. This continual screaming that everyone everywhere is a bigot (cause we ALL have opinions) makes people roll their eyes. It is creating a backlash. If EVERYTHING is 'bigoted' then nothing is...
we all need to re read "The Little Boy that Cried Wolf". there are some real truths in some of those little fables we heard as a child.
and I refuse to accept poor lil Perez as a victim HE chose the question...if he was so incredibly sensitive about it then he shouldn't have asked. He can not be so naive as to think there was not a possibility that someone might gently disagree with him.
this is Perez Hilton, people.. if you dont' know him, then google him. He is not a fragile flower, he makes a living skewering people.
having an opinion that gay marriage is not a good thing does NOT make you a bigot. It just means you have a different view of things. If she advocated castration or segregation...THEN I would agree with you.
Perez gave our enemies a fresh new weapon. Call it 'blaming the victim" I call it "calling an idiot an idiot."
CellarDweller:
--- Quote from: injest on May 01, 2009, 08:25:22 am ---and I refuse to accept poor lil Perez as a victim HE chose the question...if he was so incredibly sensitive about it then he shouldn't have asked. He can not be so naive as to think there was not a possibility that someone might gently disagree with him.
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Just to state for the record, I hate Perez Hilton, he's nothing but a talentless gossip monger.
However, according to pagent procedure, twelve questions are submitted prior to the pageant, and six are then chosen to be randomly drawn from a hat and asked to the top 5 contestants.
Hilton did not make up that question, it was submitted beforehand, and picked randomly.
The information was found on the Fox news site.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517281,00.html
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