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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
louisev:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on May 02, 2009, 04:15:17 pm ---I consider someone trying to deny me rights an attack.
Being pleasant and cheerful about it seems to me just that much more cavalier and cold blooded. If I'm stabbed in the back, it doesn't make it any more pleasant if it's done with a smile. In some ways it makes it that much more heinous.
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there is also the problem that the Miss California Pageant is now tainted with the extremely controversial and right-wing anti-gay-marriage group.
Shasta542:
So, do you suggest that every contestant has to have the exact same opinion on all subjects? I guess they could go through a vetting process. Then they could be even more cookie cutter cute than they already are.
louisev:
--- Quote from: Shasta542 on May 02, 2009, 09:06:53 pm ---So, do you suggest that every contestant has to have the exact same opinion on all subjects? I guess they could go through a vetting process. Then they could be even more cookie cutter cute than they already are.
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me? I have nothing to do with the standards of the pageant people and the contracts they make with their contestants. Becoming an extremist spokesperson, however, may possibly be on their "don't's list". Beauty queens have been stripped of their crowns before for unseemly behavior of many kinds.
Here's a list drawn up by Slate:
http://www.slate.com/id/1002887/
injest:
--- Quote ---me? I have nothing to do with the standards of the pageant people and the contracts they make with their contestants. Becoming an extremist spokesperson, however, may possibly be on their "don't's list". Beauty queens have been stripped of their crowns before for unseemly behavior of many kinds.
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well considering that the majority of California voters chose to go with HER view, I am not sure how you can call HER the extremist...
or is that in the "Rules for Radicals"??
wait..no, that was in "1984"; call black white and demand everyone agree...the majority by definition can not be the extremists...
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on May 02, 2009, 09:18:34 pm ---well considering that the majority of California voters chose to go with HER view, I am not sure how you can call HER the extremist...
or is that in the "Rules for Radicals"??
wait..no, that was in "1984"; call black white and demand everyone agree...the majority by definition can not be the extremists...
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Well, she is in the extreme along with majority of the voting population in California because - as was the South during the Civil War and possibly up to the recent times as well - that they believe some people don't deserve the same civil rights as everyone else.
People who believe that are in the extreme as far as American/Western thinking is concerned. After all, people who don't believe women deserve civil rights, who still believe in slavery, are certainly thought of as extreme in their thinking throughout much of the Western world.
So you could say - as in another George Orwell story Animal Farm - that they believe some people are "more equal than others".
--- Quote ---So, do you suggest that every contestant has to have the exact same opinion on all subjects? I guess they could go through a vetting process. Then they could be even more cookie cutter cute than they already are.
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That's up to the sponsors, isn't it? They want what they want - they're not running a democracy. If they want to run a screening process on whether the Miss USA contestants actually uphold American values such as equality for all, I don't see why not.
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