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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 05, 2009, 08:23:09 pm ---It is hard to take this post seriously. is there really anyone of credible posture who would compare the debate/discussion of 3000 year old marriage traditions to 21st century pop culture semi nude publicity photos? Oy vey.
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I've been told 'God doesn't change'. Take it up with the religious people Herr.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 05, 2009, 08:26:22 pm ---sorry deluvia, you are not using 'bigot' correctly relative to Ms Prejean. In fact, "A bigot is a person who is intolerant of or takes offense to the opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own" which clearly shows she is NOT the bigot...but you are the one who takes offense at and are intolerant of her opinion. ;)
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You left out the rest of the definition - from an earlier post:
Bigotry is focusing a hatred or dislike against a class of people for holding a belief different from one's own or for an innate quality they exhibit
That applies to disliking blacks for the color of their skin, Asians for having an epicanthic fold, and gays for having sexual desire for the same sex. See also: intolerance
;D
LauraGigs:
--- Quote ---...the left wing liberals have jumped hook line and sinker on the bandwagon of attempting to ruin her.
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"The left wing liberals"? (You mean every one in the country? Only a few? No moderates? No one else?) Who is doing this exactly?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 05, 2009, 08:37:53 pm ---Patience is a virtue I do have....
delluvia, your selected definition only indicts you further. Ms Prejean had nothing negative to say about disliking or hating anyone; she simply stated her belief that marriage is male/female. In fact her words were quite similar to those used by Obama during his campaign, as well as joe biden. Are these men bigots, too?
I recommend you reconsider what bigotry really is and comes to grips with the reality that the bias and bigotry is coming from the side you support and targeted squarely against Ms Prejean.
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And your selected piece of her opinion (and your definition!) indicts you, my man. That's not all she said. She included the little addendum that for her "country" as well as for herself, she believes that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. That's bigotry right there. And while you might not feel any dislike in the pride she took in wanting to deny gay people's civil rights, other people certainly do.
LauraGigs:
--- Quote ---I'm glad you noted that phrase and quoted it. I deliberately used that terminology as a parallel to the frequently used "right wing conservatives" to define all those who have opinions that differ from the democrat party platform.
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So you really didn't mean it then? That's cool, because I (as a left-wing liberal, or at least a moderate one) agree with her right to say what she thinks. And I don't think it was technically fair to ask her a potentially inflammatory question if the other contestants got away with softball ones: the winner may agree with Prejean, but we'll never know; only Prejean had to field the question. As for the nudie pictures — here in the internet age they would have come out anyway, whether or not their possessor is a "left-wing liberal".
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