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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 05, 2009, 08:18:13 pm --- ???
Miss CA is who said she was being "biblically correct" instead of "PC correct" in her opinion on gay marriage.
I was just pointing out the obvious. She's only concerned about being "biblically correct" when it comes to other people, not herself.
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as apparently you do too...so you and she have a lot in common..
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 05, 2009, 08:27:30 pm ---I've been told 'God doesn't change'. Take it up with the religious people Herr.
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now you are reading God's mind? I thought you didn't believe in God?
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 05, 2009, 08:31:47 pm ---You left out the rest of the definition - from an earlier post:
Bigotry is focusing a hatred or dislike against a class of people for holding a belief different from one's own or for an innate quality they exhibit
That applies to disliking blacks for the color of their skin, Asians for having an epicanthic fold, and gays for having sexual desire for the same sex. See also: intolerance
;D
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where did she focus on her hatred for anything?
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on May 05, 2009, 09:41:02 pm ---Are you being tediously literal on purpose? What do you THINK she meant by saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman?
And no one here has made this claim, so stop trying to make this something it's not. It's not that she expressed her opinion. She made it, no one is arguing that she shouldn't have been free to express her opinion. It's what her opinion was that's at issue.
Hmmm, she said she she was 'glad people have a choice'. And now she's spokesperson for a group that wants to take choice away from gay people. So are you saying that she can be glad that something exists while trying to take that same thing away at the same time?
Sorry Herr, guess I wasn't paying attention to your post. ;D
For myself, because Obama is a politician. And he didn't go to a fundamentalist Christian college. So I'm willing to be 'unhappy with him' instead of outright outraged because chances are fairly good that his opinion on gay marriage was politically expedient. Unlike Miss CA.
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there it is...Herr she is not mad about Ms Prejeans opinion, she hates her because she is beautiful and a Christian.
And it is SOO telling that it is ok to state the opinion that marriage should be male/female if it is for politics...in other words if you can get some personal gain for it..if you are LYING..even if that person is in a position to cause great harm...
but it is NOT ok to state the same opinion if you believe it...even though you have no power to harm anyone.....hmmm..
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: louisev on May 05, 2009, 09:56:39 pm ---Obama has made no secret of the fact that he will throw the weight of the bully pulpit behind the repeal of DADT and DOMA and to support civil rights legislation across the board. And that is a vastly different opinion from that of the National Organization for Marriage who believe that if gays get to marry then they'll spread gay all over little kids and teach them how to be gay.
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Apparently the National Organization for Marriage has suffered several scandals and/or embarrassing situations since their founding in 2007.
From Wiki:
On March 19, 2009, Fred Karger of Californians Against Hate filed a complaint[10] with the California Fair Political Practices Commission alleging that the National Organization for Marriage was established by the Mormon Church and served as a "pass-through committee" to direct two million dollars in church funds toward the passage of proposition 8. A church spokesman and NOM president Gallagher both denied the allegations[11].
And this...
The NOM staff did not realize that in gay parlance "2M4M" is used as personal ad code for two men seeking a third male sexual partner, creating an unintentional gaffe that was mentioned in the media. They also failed to secure the domain name and other net resources that matched their campaign. Activists for marriage equality purchased the domain "2M4M.org" [23] and branded it as "Two Men For Marriage," running material counter to NOM's 2M4M aims.[24][25] This has since spread to other internet networking sites such as Twitter [26] and LiveJournal [27] with various users co-opting the name.
And this...
NOM has refused to make its Internal Revenue Service (IRS) 990 forms public, as required by law. This has led to a formal complaint filing made to the IRS by the Californians Against Hate (CAH) organization. CAH representatives went to the Princeton, New Jersey, offices of NOM twice to get copies of their IRS 990 reports "to no avail," said CAH's president, Fred Karger. Karger continued, "Then our representative, Ben Katzenberg, sent two certified letters to the NOM office on March 18, 2009, requesting its two 990 forms. Federal law requires NOM to furnish copies of these IRS filings within 30 days after the request has been received. And 40 days later, still no 990s." NOM could be charged penalties of up to $10,000 if the organization remains resistant to complying with law by releasing its IRS 990 forms.
And we already know about the developing scandal regarding Miss California. :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organization_for_Marriage
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