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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
injest:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on May 08, 2009, 12:34:37 am ---So Perez slapped her, she had no choice but to slap back? Is that the Biblically correct thing to do?
Sorry, we all make our own choices, unless you believe those criminal defenses where the criminal "had to" commit the crime.
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no I think people are human. it is wholey human to want to defend yourself if you feel attacked...(and I do see that may be what Perez was doing himself..)
I think it is a little silly to keep making references to the Bible....being a Christian does not make you perfect or infallible...quite the opposite, you realize how flawed you are. It is a journey to be better, not a belief that you are better.
injest:
obsessed much with the lady's body?
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: injest on May 08, 2009, 12:41:12 am ---no I think people are human. it is wholey human to want to defend yourself if you feel attacked...(and I do see that may be what Perez was doing himself..)
I think it is a little silly to keep making references to the Bible....being a Christian does not make you perfect or infallible...quite the opposite, you realize how flawed you are. It is a journey to be better, not a belief that you are better.
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I was using an idea that Prejean expressed herself - that she was being Biblically correct. I simply borrowed it from her.
I agree that improving the way we do things is a journey. But one of the cornerstones of that journey is realizing that regardless of what someone does to me, what I do next is solely up to me and to me alone. I can choose to vent my rage, or laugh, or attack or create understanding or listen or any one of a million choices.
The same is true for us all.
injest:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on May 08, 2009, 12:57:35 am ---I was using an idea that Prejean expressed herself - that she was being Biblically correct. I simply borrowed it from her.
I agree that improving the way we do things is a journey. But one of the cornerstones of that journey is realizing that regardless of what someone does to me, what I do next is solely up to me and to me alone. I can choose to vent my rage, or laugh, or attack or create understanding or listen or any one of a million choices.
The same is true for us all.
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if you have achieved that perfection then I congratulate you. I know I haven't....I am notorious for wanting to hit back when I feel attacked.
Kelda:
--- Quote from: injest on May 08, 2009, 12:00:33 am ---I know she had no power....there was nothing she could do. I dont' care if someone doesn't LIKE my son. I just dont' want them to have the POWER to hurt him. I have to be fair. I dont' think she did anything wrong, I would rather KNOW the truth about what people think rather than have them lie...
Perez gave her the power, he made her name a household thing...he gave her a platform to leap off of. Now she is the darling of the anti gay marriage...and people are rallying to her. She needs to be allowed to fade off the public stage, instead the gay community is ginning up SUPPORT for her...everything that is brought out to 'harm' her is going to backfire.
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So you don't think they way she is acting gives power over your son & Jeff? See to me she has got power and is weilding it over them. If you have a 1000 of these peeople saying "no offence but you can't get married on my watch mate" well what's that saying? There is strength in numbers. Break down those numbers & you break down the power. This is what the civil rights movement did and it got us to a better place, not perfect still but definitely better than then.
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