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Kerry:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on July 11, 2009, 03:01:26 am ---Royston Lambert
Gag, you want me to go dig up every Alexander book and article and dissertation I've ever read?
Just a quickie search gives me Arrian and Plutarch mentioning the Illiad-style tributes. I'd have to dig dieeper for the modern historians.
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The Achilles-Patroclus / Alexander-Hephaestion connection is well known. It is a fact of history that Alexander and Hephaestion together sacrificed at the tombs of Achilles and Patroclus at Troy. They did so openly, before the entire army. There is no doubt that the message they were conveying was that they were the new Achilles and Patroclus, and should be accepted as such.
Gag, indeed! I don't know what came over me, requesting your sources. God knows, there are gazillions of them! Forgive me. I'm somewhat protective of Alexander. Not that he needs my protection. Heaven forbid. (Wouldn't mind him being a little protective of me, however - haha!) There are extremely disparate views about Alexander in every aspect of his legend. I personally tend to veer towards the romantic. Just regarding his sexuality alone, there are mind-bogglingly opposite sites on the Internet, ranging from overt gay to overt straight. Some of them are very aggressive in their views. It's amazing that a man who has been dead for over two thousand years can still generate such passion. As for me, I believe Alexander was simply a man of his time.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Kerry on July 11, 2009, 04:09:58 am ---The Achilles-Patroclus / Alexander-Hephaestion connection is well known. It is a fact of history that Alexander and Hephaestion together sacrificed at the tombs of Achilles and Patroclus at Troy. They did so openly, before the entire army. There is no doubt that the message they were conveying was that they were the new Achilles and Patroclus, and should be accepted as such.
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Not exactly a fact. I think the sacrifice at Troy is only mentioned by one historian and it's one of the iffy-er authors. Regardless, no one is denying that they - or Alexander at least - viewed themselves as the new Achilles/Patroclus, what's at issue is how much that affected/influenced Alexander's level of mourning. Apparently a lot. How much was for show we'll never know. But we could take his actions as a homage as well, so there's that.
magicmountain:
Just came across this discussion
I too am a great fan of Alexander and can answer some questions which arose earlier.
Ancient Sogdia is today called Uzbekistan and Bactria is the ancient name for Afghanistan.
In fact there has been another movie recently made about Alexander called Young Alexander (2007)
which for some reason has not yet been released.
http://www.britfilms.com/britishfilms/catalogue/browse/?id=D5D44D521b20024A02YrM26CC37A
I think the best modern Alexander historian is Robin Lane Fox (who also rode in the cavalry in the film as the fee for his consulting role)
http://www.makingthemovie.info/2004/09/charge-of-smart-brigade.html
Fans of Mary Renault will love this site
http://community.livejournal.com/maryrenaultfics/
Also people are welcome to visit my Alexander blog over at dave cullen which I started in 2007. It covers all things Alexander from an historical, literary, geographical and amusing point of view plus many pics of Alexander and the places and people associated with him.
http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=26820.0
Meryl:
Here's a link to a you-tube interview with Lucy Lawless about Spartacus:
http://www.daemonstv.com/2009/08/13/lucy-lawless-talks-about-spartacus-blood-and-sand/
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Kerry on July 11, 2009, 04:09:58 am ---It's amazing that a man who has been dead for over two thousand years can still generate such passion.
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Doesn't surprise me. Think of Jesus of Nazareth. ;) ;D :laugh:
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