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Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
milomorris:
--- Quote from: garycottle on November 10, 2009, 12:57:19 am ---I'm with you, Lynn. A lot of people seem to think that if a gay man hits on a straight man, the straight man is pretty much obligated to physically assault the gay man in order to prove his manhood. This shitty song speaks directly to that attitude. I have heard many men talk exactly this way back where I come from.
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I've hit on plenty of straight guys in younger days. Most recoiled. Every one of them said something to the effect of "I'm not gay." And that was it. Not a single one has ever hit me for making a pass.
This "obligation" to prove their manhood via violence against the perpetrator happens far less than people think. Its mostly the kind of stuff that guys talk smack about when they drink. I hear this stuff all the time. Its a group fantasy of sorts. Few guys actually do it.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Lynne on November 10, 2009, 01:02:25 am ---And tell you what, things are different in downtown Boston
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True. I had my biggest problems with racial violence in the neighborhoods outside the downtown: Southie, Dorchester, Hyde Park, and Roslindale.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: garycottle on November 10, 2009, 01:47:26 am ---So the fuck what? Plenty of them do fucking do it. Some gay men are dead because of this attitude. Many have been assaulted. And a great many are intimidated by the attitude.
Like I said, it is not funny. It is not cute.
Not very many people would lynch a black man or participate in a gangrape, but if dumbass Willie Nelson should be stupid enough to sing a snappy little song about those things, I wouldn't want to hum along.
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First of all, Willie's song makes fun of homophobia, it doesn't advocate it. Secondly, there are no violent lyrics in this song. "Keep your hands off me" is miles away from "I'll kick your ass." Third, I understand men. That "if one ever touched me..." kind of talk is just that...talk. Its bravado.
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: milomorris on November 10, 2009, 02:06:48 am ---First of all, Willie's song makes fun of homophobia, it doesn't advocate it. Secondly, there are no violent lyrics in this song. "Keep your hands off me" is miles away from "I'll kick your ass." Third, I understand men. That "if one ever touched me..." kind of talk is just that...talk. Its bravado.
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I hear it making fun of homosexuals, where does it make fun of homophobia?
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Clyde-B on November 10, 2009, 02:20:41 am ---I hear it making fun of homosexuals, where does it make fun of homophobia?
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There is a character singing this song. This character is a homophobic cowboy. That's the joke. This isn't meant to be Willie Nelson's deepest thoughts.
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