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Shasta542:
--- Quote from: Susie on July 30, 2009, 10:09:32 am ---... sounds pretty boring to me ...... but it's much better when people don't make snide catty remarks about each other just because they disagree.
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Well. Here's my problem. I disagree a lot. And I try not to be snide or catty. But when I present a view that is different from the OP -- many times there are 6-8 people who come and give a rebuttal to whatever I say. I have to answer all those people and they just have to answer me. It's frustrating, so it's easier just to keep my mouth shut. You aren't going to see a lot of disagreement that way.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Shasta542 on July 30, 2009, 02:12:34 pm ---Well. Here's my problem. I disagree a lot. And I try not to be snide or catty. But when I present a view that is different from the OP -- many times there are 6-8 people who come and give a rebuttal to whatever I say. I have to answer all those people and they just have to answer me. It's frustrating, so it's easier just to keep my mouth shut. You aren't going to see a lot of disagreement that way.
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I can understand your dilemma, Shasta. But how else could it work? You tend to be politically conservative, and you're on a site where the majority of members tend to be politically liberal (note: there are of course varying degrees, exceptions, overlap, etc.). If you want to express a view that's different from the OP's, most likely others will want to express a view that is different from yours. But it needn't get hostile or insulting.
I welcome a diversity of opinions here, as long as people express them respectfully. I've been really pleased with the tone here over the past few weeks, and would be happy if people with minority viewpoints would jump in and discuss them while maintaining that friendly atmosphere.
Shasta542:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on July 30, 2009, 02:22:08 pm ---I can understand your dilemma, Shasta. But how else could it work? You tend to be politically conservative, and you're on a site where the majority of members tend to be politically liberal (note: there are of course varying degrees, exceptions, overlap, etc.). If you want to express a view that's different from the OP's, most likely others will want to express a view that is different from yours. But it needn't get hostile or insulting.
I welcome a diversity of opinions here, as long as people express them respectfully. I've been really pleased with the tone here over the past few weeks, and would be happy if people with minority viewpoints would jump in and discuss them while maintaining that friendly atmosphere.
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The minority opinion people here feel ganged up on. I know a couple of others here who are conservative, but they know how it goes, so they stay off any controversial topics. You may not be able to see it since most of your opinions are not conservative, but it's really not a free feeling. I know we can discuss without getting mad, but it's still hard when one person has to answer several. And -- some non-conservatives say things like...how stupid or how low class, etc. Things like that--maybe not aimed at a certain person, but definitely aimed at a certain person's beliefs.
bailey1205:
I think both sides of participated in snark at different opinions. BOTH sides.
I am guilty myself.
I think if one disagrees, it needn't be personal.
This site does have a majority of more liberal views.
I think it is how we approach each other, and I've always thought, or wished
we could talk without snark. I think some enjoy that though.
So, why don't we all join hands and sing....."we are the world".
:)
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on July 30, 2009, 02:22:08 pm ---I can understand your dilemma, Shasta. But how else could it work? You tend to be politically conservative, and you're on a site where the majority of members tend to be politically liberal (note: there are of course varying degrees, exceptions, overlap, etc.). If you want to express a view that's different from the OP's, most likely others will want to express a view that is different from yours. But it needn't get hostile or insulting.
I welcome a diversity of opinions here, as long as people express them respectfully. I've been really pleased with the tone here over the past few weeks, and would be happy if people with minority viewpoints would jump in and discuss them while maintaining that friendly atmosphere.
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FWIW, it also seems to me that there is a difference between presenting and discussing differing opinions and creating threads with deliberately provocative titles that clearly indicated the writer's view. In the past there were threads created, especially in Current Events, with titles that looked to me like the writer was deliberately "spoiling for a fight," just daring people to argue in rebuttal.
Just to make up an example of what I'm trying to say, I think there is a difference between "Obama Health Plan is Socialism!" and "Elements of Socialism in Obama's Health Plan?" The first looks to me like an attack on the President and deliberately dares his supporters to come to his defense. The second asks a question and opens the door for a discussion and a sharing of opinions whether or not those opinions differ.
It was the deliberately provocative thread titles that I really disliked, and they sort of made me sad, too.
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