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TOTW 05/09: Things that made you go "hunh?"

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bailey1205:

--- Quote from: Jeff  Wrangler on July 27, 2009, 01:35:10 pm ---I agree about the timeline issues.

(OT--which is why I'm putting this in parentheses--but there are timeline issues in AP's story as well. The ages of the children as discussed on the final camping trip don't jive with their birth dates given early in the story.)



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OMG !  You are right !!!

I never caught that.

LauraGigs:

--- Quote from: Jeff  Wrangler on July 27, 2009, 01:32:34 pm ---Speaking of mics, how about the infamous visible microphone cord on Alma, Jr., when Alma picks her up as Ennis is running off ot the mountains with Jack for the first time?  ;D

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Whoa.  I never saw that!

Front-Ranger:

--- Quote from: Jeff  Wrangler on July 27, 2009, 01:35:10 pm ---
(OT--which is why I'm putting this in parentheses--but there are timeline issues in AP's story as well. The ages of the children as discussed on the final camping trip don't jive with their birth dates given early in the story.)

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Shirley, ( ;D) friend Laura won't mind if we talk about bloopers in the story too.

Okay, it makes clear that Alma Jr. was born in September of 1964. That would make her 19 in late 1983. Ennis and Jack were 19 in 1963, so Jack died in 1983 when he was 39 years old. But later in the story, it says that she is 17 in 1983, so you're right about the discrepancy. It's there in the movie as well, since Junior and Ennis had their last filmed conversation quite a while after Jack's death, when Ennis said to AJ: "You're nineteen, you can do what you want."

mariez:

--- Quote from: LauraGigs on July 27, 2009, 01:53:14 pm ---Whoa.  I never saw that!

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Me, neither!  I agree about the timeline issues, especially in the movie.

It was only on my third viewing that I actually understood what Bobby said at the Thanksgiving table, although I had gotten the gist of it from context. 

LauraGigs:

--- Quote from: sfericsf on July 27, 2009, 12:40:35 pm ---Ok here's one, it was when Aguirre talked about "stemmin' the rose". 

#1 I had no idea what that meant...(but I had an idea)

#2 Why would Aguirre know what that was?

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Well, Annie Proulx said that when she was interviewing a ranch foreman/herder boss, he said something like "we send two up together so they can poke each other when it gets lonely".  (Although I wonder if he was exaggerating/embellishing that for her, since she was angling for info about rural homoeroticism... but that's another conversation.)  In such isolated male-only work environments, quick mutual "relief" may not have been such an anomaly. But Aguirre was still disapproving in this case, since J + E's romantic horseplay went far beyond that.

How would Aguirre know or have that terminology?  In the manual-labor world, guys can jabber on all day while working (such as Timmy the Asphalt Guy) and every conceivable subject comes up...   Ennis later says "I hear what they have in Mexico for boys like you".  Same deal.

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