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TOTW 05/09: Things that made you go "hunh?"
LauraGigs:
--- Quote from: sfericsf on July 27, 2009, 08:11:53 pm ---I still find it facinating that these "straight men" have such common terminology for all of these "things" and that they are so common (and obviously going on quite a bit) that everyone knows what the terminology is and what they're talking about. They just can't actually call it what it is.. Seems ok to do it and acknolwedge that it all goes on, and have slang terms for it all, but don't ever talk about it...
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Do you mean when they talk about gay sex, or about sex in general? Because slang terms and vagaries are used all the time about straight sex, too. (I wonder if it's American puritanism, or if it's also common in other countries.) Like, it's never "Are you having sex with her?" It's, "Does she put out?" or "You gettin any?" or some such thing. (Or in Ennis's case, "It's normal and all?")
LauraGigs:
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on July 28, 2009, 11:11:09 am ---Hey Laura, hope you're well! Yes, IMHO, I thought Ang was trying to make a distinct differentiation between lust and love. First couple times I watched it, before I grasped the importance of the bar speech where Jack reveals he was there the previous year, I presumed Jack was a virgin when he met Ennis. The more times I watched it, I changed my mind on that one and started presuming that he'd been with both men *and* women before Ennis. As such, he would begin to know by that time how to speak your intentions with your eyes. Seems like he never sent out the love vibe to anyone but Ennis. Even the SNIT scene looked more like a love look than a lust look to me. I watched it again last night for about the 300th time now, and still feel the same. Just my opinion, though. I really wish I was one of those smart folks who can extract exact moments from movies, and put them side-by-side-by-side, but I'm not. Oh well, great topic to discuss!
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Oh, OK! I understand much better what you mean, now. Those are cool observations!
belbbmfan:
--- Quote from: bailey1205 on July 28, 2009, 10:58:32 am ---I had a lot of "hunh's" in the movie for awhile.
It took me the 10th viewing to understand everything Ennis said.
;D
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We were lucky. We had subtitles. (And a lot of confusion later about the infamous 'I'm sorry' during the SNIT)
bailey1205:
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on July 28, 2009, 02:57:15 pm ---We were lucky. We had subtitles. (And a lot of confusion later about the infamous 'I'm sorry' during the SNIT)
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LMAO !
I remember that well.
;D
LauraGigs:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on July 28, 2009, 10:44:39 am ---I would have put in some scenes at least showing physical affection ;D in the second half of the film. When I first saw it, I remember thinking 'what are they still keeping this a secret for?'
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You know one thing that bothers me... After Tent Scene 2, you have:
Tussle scene
Aguirre/pneumonia
Hailstorm
Untangle them sheep/harmonica playing
Then the summer ends. For a lot of viewers, it's just not going to add up to a significant romantic relationship. It just seems so brief.
Obviously, its significance is made clear later by the fact that they agonize over each other the rest of their lives. And the film is all about missed opportunity, I know — and Ang deliberately starves the viewers of the luxury of lingering romance, to help make the point that J + E were also starved of it.
But when some once-only viewers would post on IMDB saying crap like, "Well, it just didn't seem like that big a deal" ::) I can kind of understand why they'd think that, even if I don't agree.
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