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Women who think it's OK for their husbands to hit them
mariez:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2010, 08:00:25 pm ---That's such a horrible story, marie!! It makes me grateful for the work that Greg Mortensen is doing in Pakistan to build schools for girls. Looks like we need more education in the US too, even though it wasn't represented on the graph.
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Absolutely! Education and awareness are so important.
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2010, 08:00:25 pm ---My daughter's new church teaches that men are to be obeyed no matter how asinine their actions and decisions are.
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Oh, no! I'm very sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, I know there are some fundamentalist Christian denominations that teach exactly that - the "Quiverfull" movement for example. It's very disturbing to know that, instead of disappearing, this kind of misogynistic, backwards thinking seems to be picking up some steam. >:(
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2010, 08:00:25 pm ---That's such a horrible story, marie!! It makes me grateful for the work that Greg Mortensen is doing in Pakistan to build schools for girls. Looks like we need more education in the US too, even though it wasn't represented on the graph. My daughter's new church teaches that men are to be obeyed no matter how asinine their actions and decisions are.
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Funny you mentioned Pakistan. In the 80s I was married to a Pakistani gentleman. We split after about 15 years. I divorced him because I grew tired of being treated like a piece of property. He never actually hit me, but threatened to hit me all the time. Actually, he threatened worse than hitting, but never went through with any of it because:
1) My father, brother, even my mom would have killed him, and he knew this
2) I told him he would be arrested if he even laid a finger on me
3) I threatened to leave if he hit me
As far as I could tell, women in Pakistan were raised to be subservient to men, but at the same time, women were treated with a measure of respect. My ex had to get used to the fact that he couldn't beat up on women in this country -- well, he couldn't hit me -- I'm not the one. He learned rather quickly.
Brokeback_Dev:
Domestic violence was a regular occurance growing up as a kid. My mom would tell me never let a man hit me and that was usually the day after a fight with my dad. She would say he's a good man he's just sick. If I was ever hit by a man I would leave because they would do it again.
To this day I cant watch domestic violence to either children, women or animals. Not on television, not in the movies and not reading about it in the newspaper.
I raised my daughter that it was against the law to hit someone. If anyone ever hit her to have them arrested. Good thing I taught her that not only because she's gay but because she knows its wrong, and that no one should ever hit her.
One more thing, its been my experience a women shouldnt hit a man either because they hit back harder.
ifyoucantfixit:
Quote from: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2010, 08:00:25 PM
My daughter's new church teaches that men are to be obeyed no matter how asinine their actions and decisions are.
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As for one who has been there. Do anything and everything in your power to get her away from that environment.
My oldest daughter was beguiled by a group like that as a freshman in college. She had been raised in church, and she
was enticed by a guy she liked to it. I didn't want to make her decision for her, and figured that she would get over
it, and it would run its course.
Well it has not run anythings course, except she tried to get the rest of us involved in it, an when we didn't comply,
she turned against us with them telling her we were evil and trying to take her from her true and rightful religion. As
far as I am concerned it is a cult. One form or another most of these groups are. We do not speak at all anymore,
she thinks we are mean, hateful, and below her in every way. Its been a long hard road over many years to get to
this, with us trying over and again to make it differently. But we have finally given up. Its a sad and terrible thing
we have to deal with on a daily basis. She doesn't allow us to see her youngest child. A boy. The best thing is though
now her oldest daughter is old enough to make her own decisions, and we have regular and good contact with her.
If there is anyone you know that you can get on your side, and talk to her, and explain the bad that is involved with these
kinds of (Churches) then try to do it....
We have one church here in Portland that holds many of these kinds of tenants. One of them is no doctors. They
have had two children die in one family, because they needed medical care, they did not get. Now the man and woman
are awaiting sentencing, for a conviction of 2nd degree Manslaughter. We don't know yet the outcome of that.
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