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P.O. Boxes, Mailboxes and the No. 17
Front-Ranger:
And here are the mailbox letters I got for my birthday from my Brokie friends!!
serious crayons:
Wow, what a cool idea for a Brokie birthday present! Especially for someone whose birthday is on the 17th.
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on September 18, 2007, 10:34:19 am ---Wow, what a cool idea for a Brokie birthday present! Especially for someone whose birthday is on the 17th.
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Yup, and I also got the mailbox to go with it! I can't wait to put it up at my lonesome old ranch house!! Y'all come visit and it won't ever be lonesome!!
TOoP/Bruce:
Coincidence or homage?
Things to think about:
Brokeback, Psycho, and NxNW are all roughly set in the mid-twentieth century "New West". (Hitchcock considered Psycho something of a western, and wears a cowboy hat in his cameo appearance.)
Brokeback and Psycho, a fly lands on both Ennis and Norman's faces as they are explaining something about themselves? Why?
Ignoring differences between Brokeback and Psycho, what structural similarities in the dramatic presentation of the story exist between Ennis in the alley and Marion Crane's shower scene?
In both Brokeback and Psycho, what unusual camera move helps to tell the story?
How is the embrace in Tent scene 2 similar to the embrace in the cabin on the train in NxNW?
Both Brokeback and Psycho show a character's discomfort by using an "Adam's apple" shot.
Both Brokeback and Psycho are stories of adult children of toxic parents.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, a car passes by in the background in a similar way to heighten the paranoia of a character in the scene.
Cinematographer Prieto makes a cameo appearance as the Mexican hustler, not unlike Hitchcock's cameo appearances. The reference to "the ice storm" in the "blue parka scene" is Lee's stand in for a cameo scene.
Both Brokeback and Psycho reach the climax of the story in house that time seems to have forgotten.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, truth is acquired by "ascending the Hitchcock staircase" to the second level.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, an empty bed and objects from another character's childhood are explored in the bedroom on the second level, and the character then looks out the window.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, the character moves after looking through the window to another room an makes a jolting discovery.
Compare Old Man Twist's face, to Mrs Bate's face.
"He's going in the family plot." What was the name of Hitchcock's last film?
Alfred Hitchcock was married to Alma Hitchcock. She was a screenplay writer.
The name of a lesser known Hitchcock movie was "Number 17" - written by Alma Reville Hitchcock.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: TOoP/Bruce on October 03, 2007, 10:41:59 am ---Coincidence or homage?
Things to think about:
Brokeback, Psycho, and NxNW are all roughly set in the mid-twentieth century "New West". (Hitchcock considered Psycho something of a western, and wears a cowboy hat in his cameo appearance.)
Brokeback and Psycho, a fly lands on both Ennis and Norman's faces as they are explaining something about themselves? Why?
Ignoring differences between Brokeback and Psycho, what structural similarities in the dramatic presentation of the story exist between Ennis in the alley and Marion Crane's shower scene?
In both Brokeback and Psycho, what unusual camera move helps to tell the story?
How is the embrace in Tent scene 2 similar to the embrace in the cabin on the train in NxNW?
Both Brokeback and Psycho show a character's discomfort by using an "Adam's apple" shot.
Both Brokeback and Psycho are stories of adult children of toxic parents.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, a car passes by in the background in a similar way to heighten the paranoia of a character in the scene.
Cinematographer Prieto makes a cameo appearance as the Mexican hustler, not unlike Hitchcock's cameo appearances. The reference to "the ice storm" in the "blue parka scene" is Lee's stand in for a cameo scene.
Both Brokeback and Psycho reach the climax of the story in house that time seems to have forgotten.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, truth is acquired by "ascending the Hitchcock staircase" to the second level.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, an empty bed and objects from another character's childhood are explored in the bedroom on the second level, and the character then looks out the window.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, the character moves after looking through the window to another room an makes a jolting discovery.
Compare Old Man Twist's face, to Mrs Bate's face.
"He's going in the family plot." What was the name of Hitchcock's last film?
Alfred Hitchcock was married to Alma Hitchcock. She was a screenplay writer.
The name of a lesser known Hitchcock movie was "Number 17" - written by Alma Reville Hitchcock.
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Great post, Bruce. Very interesting and intriguing theory.
But only some of the above mentioned examples are from Ang, others are from Annie. The following are already in the story:
--- Quote ---In both Brokeback and Psycho, truth is acquired by "ascending the Hitchcock staircase" to the second level.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, an empty bed and objects from another character's childhood are explored in the bedroom on the second level, and the character then looks out the window.
In both Brokeback and Psycho, the character moves after looking through the window to another room an makes a jolting discovery.
"He's going in the family plot." What was the name of Hitchcock's last film?
Alfred Hitchcock was married to Alma Hitchcock. She was a screenplay writer.
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It's ages ago that I saw Psycho the last time; and even longer that I saw NxNW, I can't remember a thing of the latter :-\.
--- Quote ---Both Brokeback and Psycho show a character's discomfort by using an "Adam's apple" shot.
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??? Would you please explain?
--- Quote ---Ignoring differences between Brokeback and Psycho, what structural similarities in the dramatic presentation of the story exist between Ennis in the alley and Marion Crane's shower scene?
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Hm. At first I think of a huge difference: the shower scene is famous for its many, many short camera shots (imdb says, more than 90 slices). The alley scene is basically one long shot, interrupted only by a quick counter-shot, when Ennis yells at the passer-by.
The alley scene is framed by the buildings left and right. Is there something similar in the shower scene? Well, it's a narrow place at least. That's a similarity. A bit claustrophobic. Do we see Marion crouch down in the shower?
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