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Was Mexico all about revenge or about need?

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Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: nakymaton on August 29, 2006, 11:13:29 pm ---It's more the moment after Jack wipes that tear away, when he sets his face and we hear the engine rev, that it seems like he's angry. That's the moment when I can see Jeff's point.

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Thanks, Mel! That's exactly where I'm coming from!  :)

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on August 30, 2006, 09:09:16 am ---Although no one in his right mind ought to consider sex with a hustler in a foreign country as a "safe" activity, perhaps "getting it" in Mexico was considered "safer" in the sense that it was perceived there was less a chance you might run into someone who knows you? As in, "Hi, Jack, what are you doing in Denver?"

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What happens in Juarez stays in Juarez.

Also, maybe it's easier? I'm just guessing, obviously I have no personal experience. And I do realize there would be ways to find a prostitute in Denver if you wanted to. But are there streets in Denver like the one in Juarez, where all you do is walk along, make eye contact with someone, the guy steps up and says "Senor" and off you go?

Even Ennis had heard Mexico was the place.

And of course, from a storytelling point of view, it wouldn't carry quite the same weight to show Jack wiping away a tear and looking angry and resolute as he passed a roadsign to Colorado.

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 30, 2006, 12:52:41 pm ---What happens in Juarez stays in Juarez.

Also, maybe it's easier? I'm just guessing, obviously I have no personal experience. And I do realize there would be ways to find a prostitute in Denver if you wanted to. But are there streets in Denver like the one in Juarez, where all you do is walk along, make eye contact with someone, the guy steps up and says "Senor" and off you go?

Even Ennis had heard Mexico was the place.

And of course, from a storytelling point of view, it wouldn't carry quite the same weight to show Jack wiping away a tear and looking angry and resolute as he passed a roadsign to Colorado.


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You're probably right about the "easy" part, Katherine. I'm guessing it would be easier to find it in Denver today than in Ennis and Jack's day? Though it would still be fascinating to know how U.S. cowboys who wanted it on the down-low came to know that Mexico was the place.

Momof2:
Though it would still be fascinating to know how U.S. cowboys who wanted it on the down-low came to know that Mexico was the place.


I wonder about that too.  Jack and Ennis do not seem to be worldly men.  They pretty much stayed in the same areas.  Then you see Jack go to Mexico for a male prostitute.  Even Ennis knows whats in Mexico for boys like Jack.  Then the whole dope smoking. I know that has been brought up on another thread, but it just seems odd to me.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on August 30, 2006, 01:09:55 pm ---Though it would still be fascinating to know how U.S. cowboys who wanted it on the down-low came to know that Mexico was the place.
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Well, I think traditionally Mexico has been the place for a lot of things that are harder to obtain in the U.S.: quickie divorces, marijuana, questionable medical procedures ...

You can walk across a bridge from El Paso to Juarez. Juarez is pretty poor and, according to stereotype, less strictly policed (or at least the law-enforcement is less by-the-book). So from an economic standpoint, industries that cater to American no-nos are probably a natural consequence.

Still, how did Ennis know about it so specifically? I can't imagine his coworkers, when exchanging travel tips, recommending it as a destination for sex tourism. But maybe they would taunt each other with the "You been to Mexico?" line.


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