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Penthesilea:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 29, 2006, 12:30:30 pm ---Who said "sorry" and/or "s'alright" in the tent scene, and whether or not Ennis said "I love you" in the closet scene!

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Really, those are among the things I'm most avidly curious about.

Also, it would be nice to hear him discuss what went into creating all the symbolism and metaphors and ingenious structural forms that we often try to analyze here: the buckets, signs, clothing colors, numbers, fans, mirrored scenes, echoed gestures and so on. Personally, I believe most of them are very deliberate and carefully planned (some of them, of course, were planned by Annie and are in the original story, but many exist only in the film). One of the most fascinating things about the movie for me is how thorough and complex and subtle these are.

What I'm not particularly interested in is Ang's analysis of the characters' inner lives or motivations: at what point Ennis recognized he was in love, why Jack stuck it out for 20 years, why Alma didn't tell Ennis what she saw, etc. I'd rather he left that for us to decide. Interpreting a work of art is a collaboration involving both creator and audience, and with a movie there are lots of creators. We tend to give the creators absolute authority, even if they don't agree among themselves. So I don't think anyone -- even Ang! even Diana and Larry!  even Heath or Jake! even Annie!-- has the last word.


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Gee! Katherine again you beat me with writing down my thoughts, lol.

I would LOVE to know about the sorrys and allrigths in TS2.

I'd like to have explained the symbolism, too. I'm always happy to read/hear snippets of interviews with Ang Lee, in which he affirms things we have discussed either here or on TOB. A well-known and more obvious example is the wind.
I too think Ang Lee put meticulous efforts into the tiniest details. I'd like to have more of them explained (which, when and WHY). Would be interesting to have confirmed or proven wrong our thoughts.

And I also agree that I'm not very interested in Lee explaining the characters inner motivations. At least for most scenes.
First for the reason Katherine mentioned: the interaction between a piece of art and it's audience.
And second because I think it would be quite superficial. Not because Ang Lee doesn't have a very good insight in the characters (granted that he has, self-evident) - but I think these aspects would be held superficial (by producers or whoever descides) in order to appeal a widespread audience. Would be made kind of idiot-proof and therefore dissapointing for us. (Does that sound snotnosed? Hope not. But given that the average moviegoer/DVD customer does not busy himself with a movie for months, it's not to be dismissed)

I would love to know why the "Tell you what" scene was altered from the 2003 script. Why did they cut out Ennis's response "I know the feeling"? I really miss it there and think it would have fit. It's not too forward. It would be in character for Ennis. I think they should have left it in the movie, as the movie's equivalent to Ennis's reaction in the story. For me, TS3 doesn't make up for it too.


I'd be also interested in the camera work. There are some scenes in which the camera work is very noticeable. Normally I don't even notice it, don't ponder about it (I'm no movie-buff). But there are some scenes, in which the camera angles or the movement of the camera is somehow different, demonstrative. I can't describe it, but I noticed it. Examples are the flashback and the lake scene for me. Aguirre seeing the happy tussle is another example, but this one is easy to explain and understand.

welliwont:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 31, 2006, 05:12:46 pm ---That helps, but ... it doesn't quite make it all up.

* Sigh. * Never enough sex, never enou -- TIME. TIME. I mean, never enough TIME.

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Why Katherine, all ya gotta do is read fanfic!!  sheesh!!   ;D  I got me a list, if ya want it...

J

Mikaela:
I'd like to hear more comments on the symbolism too. Especially the yin/yang aspects, I think.

Also I'd be interested in comments about the few scenes I don't think work that well - to hear why they're included and why AL think they work (since he kept them). For instance the "pissant" scene.

And naturally like the rest of you I'd like to hear why the later part of the relationship deliberately is portrayed with so few visible signs of affection; caresses, hugs, kisses and/or sex. I don't think that explanation will come as a surprise or be entirely contrary to what we believe is the reason for that filming and editing choice, - but still I'd like to hear Ang Lee himself discuss it.

Any comments he'd care to give on aspects of the incredible chemistry between the lead actors/main characters would also be very welcome, as that *never* ceases to amaze me and I like to have it praised or discussed or at least acknowledged.....

Oh, and comments on the much-discussed timeline conondrums, and the few quite endearing film goofs would be great - could make for a lighter tone inbetween int he commentary. For instance if he happened to explain at which point they realized that the way the scenes were filmed and edited, Bobby Twist really couldn't be 8 months at the time of the reunion and still be Jack's son....

nakymaton:
You know, in reading this, I just realized...

I don't want a DVD with commentary.

I actually don't want to know any of those things. I don't want to hear Ang Lee talk about symbolism. I don't want to know who says what in TS2.

Stories about what it was like to film various scenes, yes. But interpretation? No. I don't want to hear any of it. (And if it turns out it's there, I won't buy the DVD, and I'll avoid discussion boards. Seriously. I don't want to know.)

Mikaela:
Well, it doesn't look like we're in any imminent danger of losing you since there's been no confirmation there'll be a DVD with any sort of commentary or additional bonus material, - no little news snippet of any kind that one is in the works........ I wonder if it'll ever happen.

Personally I do hope it'll be forthcoming at some not too distant point, though.  But if I'd have to choose between an Ang Lee commentary track and a Heath/Jake one, I'm afraid Ang Lee would lose out by miles!   

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