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Jack's adolescence is a blank page...
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2006, 11:28:09 am ---I've been figuring Jack got "initiated" in the summer of '62. I doubt he was up there on Brokeback by himself, even if Joe Aguirre did blame him when the lightning killed those 42 sheep. Too dangerous--to the herder and the sheep--to have one man up there by himself. (If he falls off his horse and breaks his leg, he could die before anyone finds him, and coyotes would get the sheep.)
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True. And if that initiation did take place, Jack would have more than one reason, in talking to Ennis, to say "I" instead of "we." Whereas if he and the other guy were just ordinary coworkers, why not use the plural?
Front-Ranger:
Yes, and if Aguirre got wind of what happened in '62, all the more reason for him to "snoop around" (takes one to know one) by going up to "give Jack the information" about Uncle Harold, which he would not ordinarily bother to do.
Having a big blank space in Jack's biography of his youth fits in with the Christ imagery (I hesitate to bring this up too much, but it certainly is there). Also, circumcision=little crucifixion?
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on September 12, 2006, 02:37:58 pm ---Yes, and if Aguirre got wind of what happened in '62, all the more reason for him to "snoop around" (takes one to know one) by going up to "give Jack the information" about Uncle Harold, which he would not ordinarily bother to do.
Having a big blank space in Jack's biography of his youth fits in with the Christ imagery (I hesitate to bring this up too much, but it certainly is there). Also, circumcision=little crucifixion?
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Most white American born males were circumsized at least until recently.
moremojo:
--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on September 12, 2006, 02:44:36 pm --- Most white American born males were circumsized at least until recently.
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It would be interesting to read some statistics on this matter. I was born in 1967, and was circumcised very soon after birth, and my father, born in 1941, was likewise circumcised. My mother chose to have the procedure done on me precisely to avoid any discrepancy between father and son, to preempt the kind of issue that seems to trouble Jack. Both my father and I are white American males, and I would describe my family background as upper middle-class. I suspect that class might sometimes have played an issue on whether the decision was made. Perhaps I'm digging myself into a hole here...
Some folks are probably thinking...TOO MUCH INFORMATION! But it's an interesting question that pertinently bears on Annie's story, and our possible interpretations of it.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: moremojo on September 12, 2006, 03:21:58 pm ---It I suspect that class might sometimes have played an issue on whether the decision was made. Perhaps I'm digging myself into a hole here...
Some folks are probably thinking...TOO MUCH INFORMATION! But it's an interesting question that pertinently bears on Annie's story, and our possible interpretations of it.
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I would certianly agree that economic circimstances would play a role. (no pun intended).
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