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Why is it a problem to address a Senator as a senator?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: mariez on December 16, 2009, 05:12:38 pm ---I don't think the General was intending to be disrespectful at all; in fact, quite the opposite. And I, personally, would not have been offended or bothered if he had called me ma'am. But if Senator Boxer wants to be addressed as "Senator," that's her prerogative, I suppose.
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I agree, but then I'm not a senator. She probably feels she's earned the title. Why would it be not correct to want to be called by a title one feels one has earned? Most people I know who have a doctorate want to be called 'doctor'. It would be as if a woman doctor stopped someone and asked them to call her doctor. It happens in college.
Plus it's psychological. In customer service, you get more respect from a customer if you say something like
"Hello, my name is Ms. Vanderlaan, how can I help you?"
than if you say
"Hello, my name is Sherri, how can I help you?"
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on December 16, 2009, 06:49:40 pm ---I agree, but then I'm not a senator. She probably feels she's earned the title. Why would it be not correct to want to be called by a title one feels one has earned?
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I'm sure it's not incorrect, but, apparently, at least somebody thinks the senator from California made a political misstep to make an issue of it.
--- Quote ---Most people I know who have a doctorate want to be called 'doctor'. It would be as if a woman doctor stopped someone and asked them to call her doctor. It happens in college.
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Sure enough, but even that can vary. When I was in graduate school, the professors in my department felt it was ... hmmm ... I guess parvenu would be the appropriate word ... to be addressed as Doctor. It was just assumed that if you were teaching where they were teaching, you had a Ph.D. :laugh:
--- Quote ---Plus it's psychological. In customer service, you get more respect from a customer if you say something like
"Hello, my name is Ms. Vanderlaan, how can I help you?"
than if you say
"Hello, my name is Sherri, how can I help you?"
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Sure enough, but I doubt this applies in the case of the general and the senator. Of course, if Senator Boxer needs the reinforcement of being addressed as Senator, then I think she may have more issues than how General Walsh addressed her. ::)
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on December 16, 2009, 07:32:48 pm ---I'm sure it's not incorrect, but, apparently, at least somebody thinks the senator from California made a political misstep to make an issue of it.
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Makes you wonder why they thought it was a misstep.
--- Quote ---Sure enough, but even that can vary. When I was in graduate school, the professors in my department felt it was ... hmmm ... I guess parvenu would be the appropriate word ... to be addressed as Doctor. It was just assumed that if you were teaching where they were teaching, you had a Ph.D. :laugh:
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True, but not in undergrad. And definitely not in the science areas.
--- Quote ---Sure enough, but I doubt this applies in the case of the general and the senator. Of course, if Senator Boxer needs the reinforcement of being addressed as Senator, then I think she may have more issues than how General Walsh addressed her. ::)
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Perhaps. She probably felt it put her on more equal footing. Well, if the senators are going to be professional and address him by his rank, why can't he be professional and address us by our rank?
Jeff Wrangler:
If Barbara Boxer is so insecure that she needs the lip-service respect of title when she's already clearly getting the respect due to her position as a senator, maybe she should be voted out of office. ...
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on December 16, 2009, 07:56:27 pm ---If Barabara Boxer is so insecure that she needs the lip-service respect of title when she's already clearly getting the respect due to her position as a senator, maybe she should be voted out of office. ...
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Wanting to be addressed by your proper title is only lip-service and a sign of insecurity? Hmmm, maybe I should tell my doctor or a judge or a police officer that next time I see them.... ::)
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