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Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on August 21, 2010, 10:07:08 am ---
However, I think I remember a discussion of this scene, either here or at IMDb, where we either had reason to believe or were just speculating that this scene was initially intended to appear later in the movie, where it COULD be about Ennis lying to get together with Jack.
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I feel sure we talked about it once upon a time.
I love all the points everyone has brought up in this thread. It feels like everyone is right, even the views that may be in conflict with each other. What makes this a great movie.
Ellemeno:
And of course Ennis tells a number of boldfaced lies.
Sason:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on August 21, 2010, 10:07:08 am ---
If that's what the scene was originally about, it's strange that they included it after all but in a different place. It doesn't seem very pivotal, and it's always made me a little uncomfortable because of the way Ennis mispronounces "girls."
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Does he?
In what way does he mispronounce it?
Maybe it's something all native English speakers will hear immediately and always knew, but this is the first I heard of it.
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: Sason on August 21, 2010, 04:13:02 pm ---Does he?
In what way does he mispronounce it?
Maybe it's something all native English speakers will hear immediately and always knew, but this is the first I heard of it.
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Sonja, for some weird reason, in that scene, Heath sounds very Australian in spots, and the word "girls" is the strongest example. To me, it's so strong that I am surprised they left it in the movie. It doesn't fit with his mostly impeccable accent in the rest of the film.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Ellemeno on August 21, 2010, 08:40:24 pm ---To me, it's so strong that I am surprised they left it in the movie.
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Me too. It doesn't seem like it would have been that difficult to re-record the voice for that line, without even touching the rest of the scene. I think I've seen Brokies say that low-budget indies have to cut corners where they can, but given the care lavished on making the rest of the movie authentic it doesn't seem like this would be that big a deal.
--- Quote from: Sason on August 21, 2010, 04:13:02 pm ---Does he?
In what way does he mispronounce it?
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Not sure how well this will translate, but here goes: What Heath says in that scene might be spelled "guhls" or "gihls" or even "gulls" in an American accent. But what a Wyoming accent would sound and be spelled like is more like "grrrls" or "garhls" with a harder R. Does that make sense?
Elle, I'm not sure I've noticed that many other spots where Heath seems noticeably Australian. Overall, he did master the American accent really well. That's why, for me, this one spot is so jarring. I can see how it would happen -- it would be tough to keep up an impeccable non-native accent at all times, and many actors attempting different English-language dialects, even including Americans doing other American regions, are MUCH less successful -- but I wish they'd have fixed it.
To add further complication, Heath's accent never sounded to me like a typical Australian accent (at least, the way I think of one) -- it always sounded sort of British. I believe either Sue or Kerry enlightened me at some point that his accent isn't necessarily typical Australian, but is a reflection of his region and background.
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