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"Brokeback Mountain" and "Wuthering Heights" - both "one of a kind"?

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Front-Ranger:

--- Quote from: southendmd on April 01, 2017, 07:16:38 pm ---I tried, but I'm afraid I gave up, and earlier than 17 minutes in...

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Yes, it's a very unpromising beginning, that's for sure! Almost daring you to view further.


--- Quote ---I've been to Haworth, and the scenery is spectacular.
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Haworth is not far from my mother's mother's family's burial place at St. Thomas Beckett Church in Hampthswaite, North Yorkshire, on the river Nidd. I spent a wonderful afternoon there, making rubbings of the family gravestones. The family name is Hardesty, which means hard (close) by the sty. A sty is a little stairway that goes over a fence, in lieu of a gate.

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 01, 2017, 08:40:35 pm ---Haworth is not far from my mother's mother's family's burial place at St. Thomas Beckett Church in Hampthswaite, North Yorkshire, on the river Nidd. I spent a wonderful afternoon there, making rubbings of the family gravestones. The family name is Hardesty, which means hard (close) by the sty. A sty is a little stairway that goes over a fence, in lieu of a gate.

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That's a stile. But perhaps that's what they call it, or how they pronounce it, in North Yorkshire? So they started spelling it that way?

Otherwise I'm afraid it might mean your ancestors lived close by a place for keeping pigs, That's a sty.

Front-Ranger:
No, it comes from the Old English word for stair: stǣger; akin to Old English & Old High German stīgan to rise, Greek steichein to walk. Stile is an alternative spelling.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: southendmd on April 01, 2017, 07:16:38 pm ---I tried, but I'm afraid I gave up, and earlier than 17 minutes in...

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 :laugh: I haven't tried yet.

When I read Wuthering Heights in fifth grade, I made it through the confusing and lengthy introduction by Mr. Lockwood, Heathcliff's tenant and kind of a boring guy who ultimately has little to do with the plot except as a foil for the main characters' vividness, as well as the hard-to-decipher, written-in-dialect rants by Joseph, the servant, an even less essential character, and was able to tolerate the story-within-a-story-within-a-story structure, so maybe I can stick it out to the 17-minute mark.

Then again, when I was in fifth grade there was no such thing as an internet, and I'm afraid I was a much more patient reader then than now.

If I were a fifth grader now, I'd be going, "Emily who?" and "F. Scott what?" and "Did you read that piece in Slate arguing that Bob Dylan actually does have a great voice? Well, I didn't finish it, but it sounded like the guy had a point."

(Actually, I did finish it, and he made a pretty decent argument.)



--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on April 01, 2017, 08:40:35 pm ---Haworth is not far from my mother's mother's family's burial place at St. Thomas Beckett Church in Hampthswaite, North Yorkshire, on the river Nidd. I spent a wonderful afternoon there, making rubbings of the family gravestones. The family name is Hardesty, which means hard (close) by the sty. A sty is a little stairway that goes over a fence, in lieu of a gate.
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--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2017, 10:36:28 pm ---That's a stile. But perhaps that's what they call it, or how they pronounce it, in North Yorkshire? So they started spelling it that way?

Otherwise I'm afraid it might mean your ancestors lived close by a place for keeping pigs, That's a sty.

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Stairway or pigpen, it sounds like a beautiful place for a burial ground. And what a great idea to make rubbings of the family gravestones!

(Brokie extra credit: Notice anything familiar in the construction of the first sentence in the paragraph above?)






Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 02, 2017, 09:22:16 am ---Stairway or pigpen, it sounds like a beautiful place for a burial ground. And what a great idea to make rubbings of the family gravestones!

(Brokie extra credit: Notice anything familiar in the construction of the first sentence in the paragraph above?)

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You just like the direction it's going?

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